See what Knots / 110 folks don't seem to understand is that Core tried to take a stand at the relay level (safer) and literally everyone ignored them. So doing it at the consensus level (far more dangerous) would certainly cause a split, which is exactly what 110 is going to do. And even then it doesn't actually prevent spam as Peter Todd proved when he embedded the entire 110 pdf doc in a 110 compliant transaction :/ So when the split inevitably happens and a future market forms, 110 will be on the losing end.

Bcash purists - "Bitcoin is cash" BSV purists - "Bitcoin is satoshi's vision" Knots/110 Purists - "Bitcoin is money" We've heard it all before. Ideology after ideology. When people are unhappy with what bitcoin is they try to change it using fear, ideology and anti-core rhetoric but bitcoin changes you, you don't change bitcoin. The reality is bitcoin is, and that is enough.

It's pretty simple, all Tone is saying is he does want more people to run nodes, but would prefer the people running those nodes be more technical, which is exactly the opposite type of people that node in a box companies attract.

Points that have been walked back from the Knots side so far and counting: -Core v30 will kill bitcoin -Spam will kill bitcoin -They won't fork

Reminder: The social contract wasn't broken by Core, it was broken in February 2024 when MARA launched Slipstream. Slipstream is a service to mine any consensus valid transaction for the right fee, bypassing normal mempool policy entirely. This contract was technically enforced by mempool filters like the 83-byte OP_RETURN limit, however Mara’s Slipstream proved that these filters were just "gentlemen's agreements" that large miners could bypass at will. Core's op return changes 20 months later weren't "enabling spam", they were acknowledging this broken contract and that the filter had already failed because you can't enforce gentlemen's agreements when miners are openly advertising they'll ignore them. These changes once again even the playing field for those wanting to get their transactions mined. It's harm reduction, plain and simple.

We are all Satoshi except Luke, Mechanic, Roger, CSW and Mike Hearn.

The data doesn't care about your feelings on "spam". It only cares about resource costs. If you want to run a node, you should be thanking the devs for op return because it’s the only reason your RAM requirements aren't 10x higher today. If you can't distinguish between disk bloat and state bloat, you aren't ready for this conversation.

People seem to forget and/or take for granted that Core is one of the most transparent software dev projects in history, especially relative to its value.

110 does literally nothing to make bitcoin more of a "money", it already is money and 110 arbitrarily restricts script, confiscates coins and risks splitting the network, no thanks.

Got news for you Carter, LN is doing just fine without your acknowledgement by pretty much every metric imaginable.

Yah almost like the rush to put in filters that could be as easily bypassed as the ones in Knots. For those paying attention at home Samson is still just a larp who is too afraid to let anyone reply to his posts except the simps that follow him.

The Quantum FUD is just that, FUD, and Mechanic and Luke are still following in Roger's and eventually faketoshi's footsteps.

If free speech is a threat to you, your soft fork probably isn't going to do well.

Bitcoin is working as intended: 1. Thwarting spam making it unsustainable for any meaningful amount of time due to fees. 2. Resisting loud non-technical internet mobs trying to change it. 3. Tick tock next block.

ZCash is just as much of a joke today as it was when it came out. No thanks.

Knots folks: I'm here to save Bitcoin from "spam" Also Knots folks: I don't know how spammers operate. I don't know what drives spam behavior. I don't know what tools they use. I don't know how their ecosystem works. I don't know a single spammer.

Soon Knots folks will finally realize that the only way to fully stop "spam" is a central authority like OFAC, but hey, they'll get there eventually right?

So even with all that paid Ocean marketing Knots still can't rise above ~20% and only has a ~2% chance of actually happening in the betting markets.