If filters don't work, why doesn't Citrea still used op_return anyway ? Because they work, in the sense that for Citrea even if possible it's a big risk for their business, that s why they went for the option of putting it in the utxo set, because of filters and they need bitcoin network censorship resistance.

Someone sending ocasional spam to bitcoin for the lolz has the advantage, it only need the tx to get through and mined by someone, it can send directly to a miner and thats fine, and it can do this until it runs out of money to throw away. A business, or big entity (Citrea, wizards etc) they are in disadvantage, sure they can also rely on just a few friendly nodes and 1 or 2 miners, BUT, they can't keep a business for long with such risk, they loose bitcoin censorship resistance, miners can stop the service, have downtime, or just overcharge them, or friendly nodes go offline for a period of time. For a business with millions this is a huge gamble and fragile position. Thats why it's important to have many nodes on the network around the globe, and that's why we send txs in the network and not directly to miners. Censorship resistance, business that only work out of band or with very low percentages of nodes are in disadvantage.

Most devs think in absolute terms, bc that's their job, it's binary, either X is possible or it's not, there is no maybe. They then apply the same mindset to other fields of CS. Networks don't work on binary premises, they work on probabilities and best efforts. Satoshi was good on many different fields he didn't try to enforce absolutes and control every detail of the system, an example was zero conf txs, Satoshi claimed that in many scenarios it was fine, the merchant could take a small risk because a double spend is low probability and the value of the sale was also small, sure enough a lot of people thought in absolutes and claimed that someone could colluded with a miner and send a double spend directly to them to steal a coffee, sure it was possible, but low probability.

Saying that spam can still get into the blockchain bc you can send it directly to a miner is a retarded argument.

Core devs are calling everyone stupid while they rejected this same change 2 years ago. lol. Now they are gaslighting. What changed was Citrea that was going bloat the utxo set with their crap, and Core cave in and opened a door for them and everyone else. what a disgrace of a decision.

Very simple for me. 1- if filters don't work at all, it's ok to leave it. 2-if they work, leave it or spam will skyrocket. 3-in doubt, don't change bitcoin. Core handled this very badly. So for me it's run old version of Core, or Knots, to leave bitcoin as it is now.

op_return filter and limits are so bad that everyone has been running them since 2013 and everyone is running them right now, so I but now apparently everyone is retarded, and all those past devs didn't know shit either.

Core arguments are like those normies who say any attempt at privacy is useless bc you have to give some data to someone eventually or someone leaks your phone to others and "what do you have to hide".