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I believe you had good intentions writing this, but ultimately mostly have to disagree with the blanket statement to formalize nostr delopment. A few points: 1. Bitcoin and Lightning both are much narrowly scoped protocols compared to Nostr. Therefore easier to standardize and consesus MUST be achieved because there must be one money. Nostr is not like this. It allows for much more flexibility because people still are discovering what nostr is fundamentally. Anyway plenty of people still don't think BIPs and others are good ways to do this. An example: BIP39 which is used by all onchain wallets basically in use today, is UNANIMOUSLY DISCOURAGED for implementation. Funny huh? 2. Nostr and all protocols will be what people with SKIN IN THE GAME want it to be. It's not just about money. It's about creating useful stuff people want. That takes time, taste and caring. But we have to accept reality: bitcoin has not centralized too much yet, because there were serious actors all over the globe to fight for it. I mean not in comment sections and twitter threads but with projects where they poured their hearts and money into it. If Nostr gets co-opted by the sorts of Google then we failed to outcompete them, and it's so simple. I really don't think that "If only more RFCs had been posted about governance and stuff like that we would have a decentralized oauth." No. The more economic clout wins. No amount of bureaucracy changes that. 3. Capture cannot be solved by centralizing efforts in a generic way. This is an oxymoron. However, running mates rowing in the same boat will indeed try to join their efforts. Look at the de-commerce consortium of nostr:nprofile1qqs2xugc5jyguqkj36rk0syv4tmnkjdtmtperttl7x9rqjy3ustdcvcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7am0deejucmpd3mxztnyv4mz7qg4waehxw309aex2mrp0yhxgctdw4eju6t09uzac8sd , nostr:nprofile1qqs8nxvpg9shg0ez0yqx4vgvlkpm6vadlu3ushjan5y5nlwkp783jqgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgqgjwaehxw309ac82unsd3jhqct89ejhxqgcwaehxw309ac8yetdd96k6tnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqk86xyx with Conduit, Plebeian market and others. They have already done what you described, just with bottom up effort, not in a communist top down way. 4. If I want feedback on anything I can ask people I trust, not some self-designated team of experts, and potentially pay for review efforts. No need for pundits shouting from the sidelines. 5. I don't care if the process takes long to form good specs. Centralization doesn't help to speed this up. We have several websites describing most NIPs and people who mostly respond to questions. Communities could help further. Why do we need to formalize grassroots development? What we would get is more corruption as to who merges which NIP into "tHe NIPs rEPo". Probably why nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp dropped this idea in the first place. Still, I don't really care what kind of process you guys are up to because this is not strict consensus stuff like money has to be. Go for it, just don't think people's precious time will be wasted on centralized Nostr politics rather than building.

For #gitvianostr and nip34 enthusiasts like me: nostr:naddr1qqxnzde4xuunzd34xy6rwdpcqythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0qgsvmm558ja3n3g6hpr6vm2awaph825lv0fgwfrtkkdssfl6te3hgqqrqsqqqa28n9mdyr

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The most reliable energy source for freedom tech development is if you first and foremost do it for your own (or family or loved ones') sake, not for "humanity". Humanity can do without you, and you don't need to save everyone. Just care for those next to you with low time-preference, and see the magic happen.

Nostr fixes this

SatShoot 1.0.0 Thanks to the latest PR of nostr:nprofile1qqs8rheprycaymhyzysa99dag09u0cuz2p0rxw6uz02qzm8dj4pdn4cpypmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuetfde6kuer6wasku7nfvuh8xurpvdjj7qgewaehxw309ahx7um5wgh8qctjv46x7tnnwpskxef0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qprs6u Cashu payments and Nostr-wallet funcionalities are back on SatShoot (don't be reckless with ecash yet folks!). All parties, including SatShoot pledge and Sponsored npub splits can be paid with #ecash as well: https://v.nostr.build/qsDX2E3fjzv17uCi.webm Although we still need seed backups for Nostr wallets, and constant improvements on multiple fronts, I consider this the real MVP I've been dreaming of long-long ago. Enjoy the Free Market, for real. #freelance #satshoot

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Sponsoring splits are now automatically calculated in [SatShoot](https://satshoot.com) : https://v.nostr.build/m2qIgOoQdpzsQh9Z.mp4

The [Free Market](https://satshoot.com/services) is being born on nostr. Glad to be a part of it! Want to earn sats and Unstoppable Reputation? Join the fray! https://satshoot.com #satshoot #freelance #grownostr