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Tyler 2 years ago
Imagine paying that for ~10kbps simplex. image
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Tyler 2 years ago
What do you want, really?
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Tyler 2 years ago
To other baptists who try to force abstinence in others: People who have never been involved in agriculture have no clue, and constantly accusing people of calling Jesus a drunkard for having wine (which is wine) is sickening and not respectful of the common salvation. Deuteronomy 14:24-27 gives explicit permission to God's people to buy alcoholic beverages for their enjoyment, both wine and strong drink. A drunkard is someone who gets blackout drunk all the time per Proverbs 23. Prov 31 is actually prescribing drink for people who are depressed and want to kill themselves. It is not tongue-in-cheek. It is not a joke. It's advice. Additionally in that chapter, we are not actual kings and actual priests like Solomon and David. Defining Wine as just "crushed grapes" per Genesis 40 requires "going back to the Greek" which the nifb says you don't need to do in order to understand the Bible - inconsistent teaching and it's mental gymnastics "it's fine when I do it" The teaching to not give neighbor drink in Habakkuk 2:15 is in scripture for not raping them or their wives and is misused to infer that Jesus giving wine to his disciples was sinful "because only a pervert would want to give someone alcohol" - this is a disgusting interpretation. When Paul tells Timothy to have a little wine it's consistent with prov 31, it is not "grape juice as medicinal to settle your stomach" (that's retarded, sugar does not do that) but the equivalent of "have a drink and stop worrying so much". Does not advocate for drunkennes. If it wasn't an alcoholic wine that Jesus drank, then it wouldn't make sense for the hypocrites to make a big stink about him drinking wine in Matthew 11. The application for being sober in Titus 2 and 1 peter 1 is to be of a serious temperament of the mind, not for never having any wine, otherwise Paul would be lying in 1 Timothy. In those same passages, it does say to not be GIVEN to wine, the same way someone is GIVEN over to a reprobate mind. That makes sense and is consistent with drunkenness as defined in prov 23 to be sinful. This heresy of "having any amount of alcohol makes you a drunkard" is absolutely garbage and is one of the foundations for people calling baptists hypocrites. One step at a time, that's how the nifb become the oifb. You may not agree now, that's fine, but stop accusing believers of severe heresy and blasphemy because they think (correctly) that a little wine is fine, on this very minor doctrine.
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