But those aren't your only choices. You can learn a new skill. Get a better job. Be more prepared. A lot of things that just require a tiny sliver of personal responsibility.

Spoken like someone with money. Those people do not have free time to learn a new skill. They take second jobs. And no. They also can't JUST get abetter job. They are unskilled and uneducated workers with years of experience on one thing and that thing barely pays. Poverty is a trap. The more poor you are the more you spend and the less you make. A friend of my mom has been switching jobs for 10+ years. She still cannot afford rent and lives with her pares who also cannot afford rent.

I do have money. And I wasn't born with it. Spoken like you don't know how to make money. Seems more like a skill issue. I was born to a single mom in credit card debt. Stop blaming everything else for being poor and actually do something about it.

Her problem would be switching jobs constantly. Pick a valuable skill and become an expert at that. Management pays well and if you have a shred of competence it's not that hard and there's a lot of management jobs. It's not that hard to work your way there over a few years in a fast food joint. Average McDonald's manager makes 50-60k. Then there the trades. It's not exactly rocket science to learn plumbing or electricity for home install. There are plenty of options. You just have to stop wallowing in your own self pity long enough to get off your ass and work for it. Your whole diatribe is antithetical to proof of work. While you make the exact opposite case. I have money. Because I have proof of work.

Proof of work is not just digging any ditch and expecting to be able to afford to live off it it. Work is not created equally nor will it ever be valued equally .

Which is it?. Pick one of your arguments: A) if you don't make enough switch jobs B) she is not making enough because she switched jobs Not everyone can be a manager. Proof of work has NOTHING to do with what we have been talking about.

What is you point? Proof of work is unrelated. Nobody want to be paid too much for doing something unproductive. What we want is to be paid a livable wage for working 8 hours. If the work we are doing is not worth that, then the position should not exist. If I you want me to spend 8 hours a day picking rocks then it's clearly important. Because if it wasn't I could do it every other day or less. The task being simple does not mean that the task is not important And the higher ups are the ones that make way to much money for how little they produce. Not the bottom ones that do all the work

And I'm supposed to pay for you to live even if you do work that is not valuable to me?

Again. If the work you want me to do is do important that I have to work 8hs 5 days, theb clearly it's important. And I should be able to live doing that. If it's not that important then it should not be all day or not every day.

This is a retarded way to measure the value of work.

Why is that?

Think about it. Imagine hiring someone and telling them "we can offer x. I know you can't leave off of this but we still want youto work for us".. that.. does not make sense. Why would they take this? The only reason is that they don't have a choice. Which is why it's wrong. All of it