You are the frame of reference. I am asking, from your lives experience, your thinking and logic, as a human bean, which one of those 2 is more impossible. I KNOW that both of those are impossible from your point of view. I also KNOW that one of them is possible if the frame of reference is beyond human comprehension.

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You can imagine it but it's not possible. How could a thing be if it never started to be? It's not possible for a thing to be if it doesn't start to be something. You are something when you start to be something.