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#1: Dr. Mark Musser, author of Nazi Ecology: What was the cause of the Holocaust?

The Great Reassessment · Episode

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Nice! Decided not to buy the book, but I will listen to this.

Let me know what you think!

I listened to the first ten minutes then stopped. Quick question: Do you believe thatthe German Martin Luther worshipped nature or the creator God as defined by Moses and the Gospels?

The question sounds like a setup. Martin Luther wrote some very harsh texts condemning Judaism as a religious practice and cultural identity. What Hitler wrote regarding Judaism and communism reflects ideas much more in line with Luthers late writings than worship of nature or even natural selection. I have never seen anything that even hints at nature worship. This was news to me. Henry Ford was also an industialist and he did not worship nature or evolution theory and came to similar conclusions. Your guest is making a fantastic claim that does not reflect reality. If it has any basis it is at most grasping at straws and blowing small nothings out of proportion. My 10 sats. Will finish listening later.

Thanks for the question. So if you listen to the podcast, or better yet read the book, he explains how Nazi idealogy was really born out of German existentialism and romanticism, which places a great emphasis on nature and “balance.” This shows up in the Germans desire to be connected to the Fatherland, fascination with the Black Forests, fascination with animals. They saw the Jews as disconnected from any land and therefore not living authentically and therefore not worthy of life. The way they distrusted society meant they needed to be done away with as a means to restore order and balance to Nature. The fascination with oak trees is also interesting. There is a god in German mythology that represents the oak. They planted oaks after killing Jews in camps or planted Lupen flowers aka wolf flowers where Jews were buried. Hitler loved wolves. They passed legislation for sustainable development long before it was popular.

Moral of the story, when you place nature above God, nothing is sacred enough to prevent it from being sacrificed to please Nature.

Have you read Mein Kampf? I would highly recommend you read the complete unexpurgated edition. James Murphy translation. Then read Martin Luthers work On the Jews and their Lies. Then read Henry Fords series of publications, The international Jew, the worlds foremost problem. Then read Josepus, Antiquities of the Jews. Then read Maccabees 1 and 2. After you have confronted a world which seems foreign and strange, reread Nehemiah, Ezra, Malachi followed by the entire new Testament. The Bible will jump from the pages in a light you were blind to in the past. Lot's of work many years of research. Few have the balls.

mein Kampf was poorly written but reads like it was written yesterday why read the aprocrapha bible chapters ?

I would rather people organically draw their own conclusions from their own research. If I plainly say what I have found they react by trying to force me into an ideological box with the intent to brand me some or other ad hominum. If they contend with the information and discuss it on a first principles basis then they are on a level where they can challenge me in debate or discussion from a position of understanding and conviction. I don't want to try and debate semantics with anyone who nonchalantly thinks they have a grasp on the topic of discussion and I have to assu,e no one knows what they are talking about until they prove that they are willing to discuss ideas without malice. Were you referring to the book of maccabees? Apochrapha is a word much like the word canon. I don't believe in either. History is history. Some is true some is false. We should not fear testing the veracity of historic manuscripts just because it has been bundled with other books some more or less useful to our growing understanding. Test and discard, keep what is good.

One of my pet peeves is that people love to read books about people, but for some reason they do not manage to go to the source to determine what all the fuss is about. Autobiographies and direct personal accounts are the best place to draw conclusions from.

I haven’t read Mein Kempf, but it is referenced dozens and dozens of times in Nazi Ecology. According to the author when Hitler talks of God, he really means Nature.