We are angry? Really? We are the one insulting people only for their opinions? Not arguing the facts? Us right? Not to mention I am not anti anything, I just said it won't happen and explained why and you had a melt down. I also doubt your time in the game claim. No reason I should not. What I say can all be verified, you not so much. Additionally all the long term coiners, okay wait to be accurate MOST the vast majority that didn't flame out in the block wars have the same position I do. We don't even hate the idea here, but we know 110 is more than claimed and we are simply saying, you can't get it done this way. For that you people call us pedos, suitcoiners, say we are not real bitcoiners but you never explain how your side can get this done the way you are doing it. Sorry man you are projecting. I say "you are not a real bitcoiner" but since I am not retarded I know no one gets to say who is and who isn't a bitcoiner. You are or you are not. The more you put in the more you are honestly because money is real and risk is real. If you hold 100 sats bro you too are a Bitcoiner but that doesn't make you right. Again I don't care if you win or lose, that is why you hate me. Sad. There are realities here and you guys have all followed Luke like some savior. Reminds me of people who supported George McGovern and Walter Mondale and thought they had a chance.