@Matt Finlay @𝕳𝖊𝖓𝖗𝖎𝐤 𝕱𝖑𝐲𝖒𝖆𝖓 @𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔𝖘𝖍𝖎 𝖙𝖔𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖎 Agree with most of the things, yet would like to clarify a bit my approach/suggest topic. SORRY ;) for a super long note... 1/. I didn't mean to say 'how to make it brainless + to attract anyone/everyone, whatsoever...' But yeah, honestly, we need the fresh audience to join the movement as well, otherwise we're going to end up in an echo chamber with maybe just a few 'hardcore' (rebellious caretakers) still hanging out here (no way to go this way long-term). 2/. I do believe in the wisdom of this saying "Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished" but at the same time I do like taking action where possible. And looking at how many non-active creators are here (nostr, fountain, forgotten option with RSS, etc) hurts. But too, motivates. Many (too many) talents that gave up, but I know we can change that. And sure I am not thinking about the artists who do expect easy wins/low-hanging fruits only. NO to 100% effortless approach — same when it comes to music fans. But there is a thin line (a risky one) between things being a bit demanding (involving your brain/thinking/learning, commitment, etc.) and becoming overly complicated, discouraging, scary, etc. Sure, there will always be people who don't mind, persistent ones, but again it's all about the balance, like in the world/universe. And if we do not wanna end up in the same tiny circle years from now, we need to plan, discuss, test, etc. (*** not saying it is not happening btw. just explaining why I did suggested the spefic topic before). 3/. Sorry, but I don't fully see 'artists bringing in their fans' — in some 'lucky' cases it may be just a tiny % but what we need is the whole ecosystem (we kinda have it already but with some serious gaps to be filled that will also let creators gain new fans and help close the circle). We do have many cases where it does not happen because of XYZ reasons, and targeting this side is another topic in itself (different, more narrow than the main suggested thread but an important one too). The whole thing is not a zero-one game. Also, I do have some specific ideas on how to attract more people here (one of the reasons I started this project), but I wanna hear more stories, cases, etc. to learn and to help us all experiment. 4/. To 'The Edgy Alternative to Spotify' — yeah, it's actually nice, and it'll probably attract the people who are the best target group for now. But again, 'edgy' can become razor-sharp and scary. That's why I want to hear as many options/ideas as possible on how to bring more people in, iand by maybe too strong word as 'painless' I meant smoother way than some of us might have been able to offer them so far. Imagine you like reading books. It's not the most important thing in your life, but you do enjoy a few now and then. Just recently you stopped reading because quality content is very expensive, and the rest (affordable / available everywhere) is just some lame AI copy-cat slop. You give up in a way. Then a person comes to tell you that there is a new space with quality reads — developed with some downsides too since it's still a new realm, but it will let you enjoy many good books. You get excited (hope is back), but then that person hands you the entire manual on how to install XXX number of tools, take XXX number of steps, and meanhwile uses words you've never heard before and don't really understand — all just to explain how to put your hands on a single book. Even if you are a fighter and somehow decide to give it a try, soon you see even more complicated terms and options (some working some not), and even face some internal fight on what is really the right 'freedom way of reading books' vs 'just books that pretend to be read as free,' etc. What to do, how to do, whta not to do, etc. .... Will you continue? In most cases, no. You have your life to handle first, and reading is just a tiny part of it, as a hobby — not the war you wanna die on.