You’re absolutely right about these things but, but but but, the creativity of individuals and a decentralized movement such as nostr and bitcoin mean that real people in developing countries can lift themselves up into a decent life…without burning fossil fuels. So I think that was the big inning of this thread. Developing nations should be able to burn their way to “the future”. I think there’s a more creative way. I think heavy industry does not “produce” the way the market thinks it does due to all the downstream effects. 🙏

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there's a lot of money being spent trying to convince people that those downstream effects are much worse than they really are.... if they were philosophically consistent, they would be equally as up in arms about the quantities of glyphosate being dumped onto the worlds food supply.... but oddly enough, the same forces are silent on this... seems like they're only concerned with taking aim at the things that make us strong and powerful as a developed nation...
Any number of basic supply chain issues could do a pretty big number on our “strong and powerful nation”. Power grid, internet cables, hospital system, truck delivery systems…our banking system! Yes, we got a bunch of big guns I guess.