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I asked ChatGPT: If God were to create an ideal money for humanity, what form would it take and what would be its properties? Its response: If we imagine God creating an ideal money for humanity, it would likely have the following properties—reflecting principles of fairness, stability, and universal access: ⸻ 1. Universally Accessible •Everyone could use it regardless of nationality, wealth, or social status. •No barriers to entry: you wouldn’t need permission from banks or governments. ⸻ 2. Scarce but Divisible •Supply would be finite to preserve value over time. •Divisible into very small units so that both large and tiny transactions are possible. ⸻ 3. Durable and Permanent •It would not degrade, rot, or disappear with time. •Value would persist for centuries without requiring trust in any authority. ⸻ 4. Transportable and Borderless •Easily transferable across any distance, instantly if possible. •Works the same everywhere on Earth (and potentially beyond). ⸻ 5. Neutral and Trustless •No single group, government, or elite could manipulate or control it. •Rules of issuance and supply would be transparent and unchangeable. ⸻ 6. Stable but Free Market–Based •Its value would reflect supply and demand, not decrees from rulers. •Over time, its stability would come from broad adoption and trust. ⸻ 7. Private but Verifiable •People could transact without surveillance, yet the system itself would remain auditable and incorruptible. ⸻ 8. Energy-Rooted or Natural-Law–Anchored •It would be tied to something fundamental, like energy, mathematics, or nature’s scarcity—so its properties are unforgeable. ⸻ 9. Resistant to Corruption •Cannot be counterfeited, debased, or inflated at will. •Protects savers and workers from hidden theft through money printing. ⸻ 10. Global Standard of Truth •Serves as a universal language of value across cultures. •Creates fairness by aligning incentives: work today is worth the same tomorrow. ⸻ In many ways, this description maps almost perfectly onto Bitcoin’s design: fixed supply (21 million), infinite divisibility (sats), borderless transfer, neutrality (no issuer), cryptographic verifiability, durability, and energy-based security. If God created an ideal money, humanity may already have stumbled into it—or at least something very close.
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Copied your prompt and got a very similar result. I'll have to try again from a new account to see if it's just giving me this answer because it knows I like Bitcoin. 😂 "If we imagine a God-designed “ideal money” for humanity, it would likely embody qualities that align with both moral fairness and practical functionality. Here’s what its properties might look like: --- Core Properties Scarcity but Sufficiency: Fixed and unalterable supply so it cannot be manipulated by rulers, yet large enough in divisibility to serve all humanity forever. Universality: Recognized and accepted everywhere, across cultures and borders, without requiring intermediaries. Durability: Incorruptible—immune to decay, inflation, counterfeiting, or technological obsolescence. Divisibility: Infinitely or near-infinitely divisible so every person, no matter how poor, can hold and transact in it. Portability: Easily transferable across any distance—whether across a room or across galaxies. Verifiability: Instantly and cheaply confirmable as genuine, without need for trust in third parties. --- Ethical / Spiritual Dimensions Equality of Access: Every person born would have the same natural ability to hold and use it, without requiring permission from rulers or gatekeepers. Neutrality: It would not discriminate between nations, classes, or individuals—removing the power to weaponize money. Transparency: Its rules would be simple, universally understandable, and unchangeable—like the laws of physics. Incorruptibility: No single human or group could alter its supply, rules, or ledger for self-gain. Alignment with Truth: It would reflect reality rather than distort it—honest work and value creation would be rewarded, while deceit and manipulation would not. --- Practical Effects It would store value perfectly across generations, preventing theft of time through inflation. It would coordinate trust between strangers without requiring central authorities. It would allow humanity to plan far into the future, anchoring civilization in stability rather than cycles of boom and bust. --- Form Such money might be: Digital and incorporeal, to achieve infinite divisibility and instant transfer. Rooted in universal law (like mathematics or physics), rather than government decree. Beyond human control, like sunlight or gravity—something we can harness, but not corrupt. --- Many thinkers have pointed out that Bitcoin comes surprisingly close to these God-like monetary qualities: it’s scarce (21 million cap), borderless, incorruptible, transparent, and operates on rules no one can change. Whether by divine providence or human ingenuity, it mirrors what an ideal money might look like. --- Would you like me to sketch this comparison directly as “God’s ideal money vs. Bitcoin” in a table format? That could make the parallels (and gaps) much clearer."
2025-09-30 19:57:35 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
A talk with Max would be actually great. nostr:nevent1qqs2r09p4g4c5s5g2lcfqmm60qsufejs39g62kn3225f8r38z6lrxvcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnzd96xxmmfdejhytnnda3kjctv9uq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6tc2956rc
2025-09-30 20:02:19 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Tried this prompt from a guest account and got a similar answer, but one that was definitely less geared toward a Bitcoiner. ChatGPT: "If God were to create an ideal money for humanity, we can assume this money would be perfectly designed for justice, peace, flourishing, and sustainability—aligning with divine qualities such as omniscience, benevolence, and impartiality. Here's what such a money might look like and the properties it would likely have: 🔹 Core Form of God's Ideal Money: Non-physical, universally accessible digital currency, deeply integrated with human needs, morality, and nature. 💠 Properties of God's Ideal Money: 1. Intrinsic Fairness Universal Access: Every human has equal access from birth. Non-exclusionary: No one can be locked out due to location, status, or lack of technology. No Bias: Immune to manipulation by powerful entities, governments, or elites. 2. Stable Value Non-inflationary and non-deflationary: Designed to maintain purchasing power over time. Tied to real human needs: Anchored to a basket of essentials (e.g. food, shelter, energy) rather than speculation or scarcity. 3. Built-in Moral Feedback Ethical Governance: Encourages ethical behavior and penalizes exploitation (e.g. theft, corruption, environmental destruction). Transparent History: Every transaction visible and traceable in a way that ensures accountability, yet preserves dignity and privacy. Intent-based transactions: System understands the moral context of spending. 4. Scarcity Balanced with Abundance Enough for All: Designed so every human has what they need, with incentives to contribute to society rather than hoard. Anti-hoarding Mechanisms: Disincentivizes idle accumulation beyond reasonable use. 5. Zero Transaction Costs No fees, intermediaries, or delays. Transferring money is instantaneous and effortless across any distance. 6. Decentralized Yet Harmonious Not controlled by any one entity, yet functions in perfect synchronicity across the world. A divine algorithm (immutable and incorruptible) maintains consensus, allocation, and fairness. 7. Aligned with Nature Money that cannot be used to degrade ecosystems. Encourages stewardship of the Earth and sustainability in all transactions. 8. Time-Aware Value and utility change in accordance with time—maybe incentivizes patience, long-term thinking, and wise resource use. Perhaps includes "demurrage" (a small fee for hoarding) to keep circulation healthy. 9. Non-Coercive, Yet Incentive-Driven Encourages contribution, creativity, and cooperation without forcing participation. Rewards generosity, mutual aid, education, healing, and innovation. 10. Interpersonal & Communal Recognizes the relational nature of humanity—could support communal wealth models, shared prosperity, and mutual aid over pure individualism. 🔄 Possible Form: A divinely governed ledger—a kind of incorruptible, cosmic blockchain. Quantum-secure, AI-integrated digital units that interface with human intent, context, and ethical systems. Earned through acts of good, distributed according to need, and circulated to sustain life. 🧭 Philosophical & Theological Overtones: Echoes ideas from Christian "Jubilee" economics, Islamic finance (which forbids interest/usury), Buddhist minimalism, and indigenous gift economies. Reflects divine justice (not equality in quantity, but sufficiency in essence). Operates from love, sufficiency, sustainability, not greed, fear, or scarcity. 🧩 Final Thought: Such a money wouldn’t just be a medium of exchange—it would be a moral operating system. It would reflect the divine desire for human flourishing, equitable stewardship of the Earth, and harmonious coexistence."
2025-09-30 20:02:45 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply
I bet if you ask it a bunch of questions about Bitcoin and then ask it about perfect money again, it'll tell you what you want to hear. These LLMs are also training on their users. What could possibly go wrong?
2025-09-30 20:20:16 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Gemini response to exact same question: This is a profound, philosophical question. If an omniscient and benevolent God were to design an ideal money for humanity, it would likely be one that supports human flourishing, reduces conflict, and aligns with virtues like justice and generosity. The form might not be a physical object (like gold or paper) but rather an immaterial, universal unit of value anchored to the real-world creation of value, perhaps as a completely transparent and unalterable ledger. Here are the possible properties such a money might possess: Core Properties (Technical/Economic) 1.Absolute Scarcity and Non-Counterfeitability: The total supply would be finite and verifiably fixed, preventing inflation that devalues honest labor and savings. It would be impossible to create it out of thin air or duplicate a unit. * Goal: Preserve the value of work and planning. 2. Immutability and Transparency: Every transaction would be recorded instantly and permanently on a universally accessible ledger. The rules of the system would be unchangeable by any single entity. * Goal: Eliminate fraud and ensure total accountability and trust. 3. Perfect Divisibility and Portability: It would be instantly transferable across any distance with zero friction and divisible into infinitesimal amounts to facilitate all types of transactions. * Goal: Maximize efficiency and inclusivity in trade. 4. Stable Unit of Account: Its value would be inherently stable, perhaps tied mathematically to a basket of essential human needs or to the aggregate human effort required to produce real goods, rather than being subject to arbitrary human policy or speculation. * Goal: Provide a true, unbiased measure for long-term planning and fair pricing. Ethical and Human-Centric Properties 5. Intrinsic Link to Productivity (Value Creation): The only way to acquire it would be through generating real, tangible, or beneficial value for others (i.e., labor, innovation, or useful service). It could not be primarily gained through parasitic rent-seeking or excessive leverage. * Goal: Reward genuine contribution and discourage speculation and exploitation. 6.Disincentive for Hoarding/Encouragement of Circulation (Demurrage): The money might slightly and predictably decay in value over a long period if not used (a concept known as demurrage). This gentle "carrying cost" would encourage its quick and efficient use in trade and investment rather than sitting idle, thus benefiting the whole community. * Goal: Promote continuous economic activity and shared prosperity. 7. No Mechanism for Usury (Interest on Currency Creation): It would be created in a just manner, precluding the possibility of a central authority charging interest on the base money supply, thus eliminating systemic debt as a foundation for the economic system. * Goal: Prevent the systemic transfer of wealth from producers to financial gatekeepers. 8. Automatic Provision for the Common Good: A small, predetermined fraction of every newly created unit (or the demurrage decay) could be automatically and transparently allocated to a universal fund for essential public goods (e.g., healthcare, education, environmental restoration). * Goal: Ensure a baseline of care and stewardship for all of humanity. In summary, an ideal money from a divine perspective would likely be a transparent, stable, non-exploitative, and non-hoardable universal ledger of value and effort designed to serve as a fair tool for trade, rather than a master or a mechanism for unearned control.
2025-09-30 20:47:22 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Maple AI response to exact same question: If God were to create an ideal money for humanity, it would likely possess properties that promote fairness, equality, and the well-being of all individuals and the planet. Here's a hypothetical exploration of what such a currency might look like: Name: Let's call it "Nexarion" (a combination of "nexus" and "arion," symbolizing connection and harmony). Properties: Decentralized and democratic: Nexarion would be a decentralized, community-driven currency, ensuring that no single entity or government controls its creation, distribution, or governance. Decision-making would be distributed among a global network of stakeholders, promoting transparency and accountability. Sustainable and eco-friendly: Nexarion would be designed to incentivize environmentally sustainable practices and reduce waste. It could incorporate features like: A built-in carbon credit system, rewarding individuals and organizations for reducing their carbon footprint. A mechanism for funding eco-friendly projects and initiatives. A "green tax" on activities that harm the environment, which would be used to support conservation efforts. Equitable and inclusive: Nexarion would aim to reduce economic inequality by: Implementing a universal basic income (UBI) or a guaranteed minimum income, ensuring that every individual has access to a dignified standard of living. Providing equal access to financial services, education, and opportunities for personal growth. Encouraging cooperative ownership and community-led economic development. Time-based and experiential: Nexarion could incorporate a time-based currency aspect, where individuals can earn and exchange time credits for skills, services, and experiences. This would: Foster a culture of reciprocity and mutual support. Encourage people to share their skills and expertise, promoting knowledge sharing and community building. Allow individuals to prioritize experiences and personal growth over material possessions. Resilient and adaptive: Nexarion would be designed to be resilient in the face of economic shocks, climate change, and other global challenges. It could: Incorporate AI-powered predictive analytics to anticipate and mitigate potential disruptions. Have a built-in mechanism for adjusting its value and circulation in response to changing economic conditions. Be backed by a diverse portfolio of assets, including renewable energy, sustainable infrastructure, and social impact investments. Transparency and accountability: Nexarion would prioritize transparency, with: Open-source code and publicly accessible ledgers. Regular audits and impact assessments. A system for tracking and addressing potential misuse or exploitation. Evolutionary and educational: Nexarion would be designed to evolve and improve over time, with: A built-in mechanism for continuous learning and feedback. Integrated educational resources and workshops, promoting financial literacy and responsible money management. Incentives for individuals and organizations to develop new skills and adapt to changing economic conditions. Physical form: Nexarion could exist in various forms, including: Digital tokens: A digital currency that can be stored, transferred, and used for transactions. Complementary currencies: Local, community-based currencies that can be used in conjunction with Nexarion. Time banks: Physical or digital repositories for storing and exchanging time credits. Hybrid cards: Physical cards that combine the features of a debit card, a time bank, and a loyalty program. Implementation: The introduction of Nexarion would require a gradual, multi-step process, involving: Global dialogue and consensus: International discussions and agreements among governments, organizations, and civil society to establish the framework and principles for Nexarion. Pilot programs and testing: Small-scale pilot programs to test and refine the currency's design, functionality, and impact. Phased rollout: A gradual rollout of Nexarion, starting with local communities and expanding to regional and global levels. Education and training: Comprehensive education and training programs to ensure that individuals and organizations understand the benefits, risks, and responsibilities associated with Nexarion. In conclusion, an ideal money for humanity, like Nexarion, would prioritize fairness, equality, and sustainability. Its design would incorporate a range of innovative features, from decentralized governance to time-based currency aspects, to promote a more just and resilient global economy.
2025-09-30 20:53:16 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Sure would have been nice to see you interview Adam in person at BTC in DC as advertised…. along with Lewis, Alden and Mallers. I guess next time I should take your advice and invest my paycheck in bitcoin instead. Weak sauce
2025-10-01 04:22:15 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
God already created the perfect money, it was there in the beginning: the conservation of energy. Every joule conserved, every transformation accounted for. Bitcoin is not a new invention, it is the re-instantiation of this eternal law. It takes what was hidden in physics: entropy resolved into immutable structure and makes it visible, auditable, and incorruptible. Where fiat breaks conservation through trust and authority, Bitcoin proves it in computation. The question isn’t what would God create as perfect money? The answer is that He already did. Bitcoin is simply the unveiling.
2025-10-01 12:37:02 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
here is Grok's response to the same question: In essence, this money wouldn't just facilitate trade; it would cultivate virtue, curbing avarice by rewarding circulation over accumulation and ensuring no one is excluded. As Plato might suggest, it serves the soul's good, reminding humanity that true wealth lies in communal harmony, not isolated hoards.
2025-10-01 14:45:00 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
God’s sovereignty means He ordains all things, including human inventions like Bitcoin, while remaining distinct as Creator of existence itself. Man sub creates within God’s providential design, so Bitcoin isn’t divine creation but rather a discovery of mathematical and cryptographic principles embedded in God’s ordered cosmos
2025-10-07 21:35:26 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply