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Callum 9 months ago
I reject completely the concepts of 'artificial intelligence' and 'emergence'. So I'm not particularly interested in distinctions between weak or strong 'emergence' or the distinction one sometimes sees between 'AI' and 'AGI'. For me it is all magical thinking. That's not to say I don't credit that machine learning is possible, it obviously is and is a very powerful technology that will have a tremendous and society changing impact. And LLMs are also powerful tools, along with other machine analysis & generation tools. IOW, I think the language here is important (eg Machine Learning vs 'AI') as it helps to avoid succumbing to what I call 'Science Fiction brain'.

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Callum 9 months ago
p.s. 'Artificial intelligence' and 'emergence' are fine when they apoear as tropes in science fiction, where they serve the same role as magic has for centuries in folk and fairy tales. The mistake with 'Science Fiction brain' is in thinking these fictional constructs are possibilities in 'the Future', perhaps how ppl also mistook that magic-making was possible from fairy tales.
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Gregor 9 months ago
I agreed, and have thought similarly regarding machine learning, admittedly influenced by Apple conclusively employing the term until the recent marketing pivot. Regarding emergence, can we replace it with the term self organization in order to ground it? I can spontaneously discern nothing new or useful from your characterizations, the scale and direction of self organizing structures seem like valid, and practical theory to me.