Ah. Interesting. You genuinely perceive there to be an anti-human agenda? Not trying to be difficult, genuinely curious since this is a very different point of view than my own and I’d love to understand if/why I’m wrong. From my side of things, I see the human population trend as having steadily and somewhat exponentially increased over the last 100 years and can personally attest to witnessing population explosion in my own lifetime. Current projections are for 11 billion humans as “unavoidable”. This seems quite at odds with a systemic anti-humanism. I also see evidence everywhere of governments doing everything they can to support childbirth from tax breaks to outright pro parent propaganda. Motherhood/fatherhood is nearly universally intensely culturally programmed to be revered and seen as a source of meaning and purpose. I see the clear incentive of government to do such things as being an ever increasing supply of workers to support their crazy, self-serving house of cards economic policies which rely on perpetual growth to keep them in power. Please help me to understand your point of view better. I will be happy to adopt a different perspective if I’ve been wrong about this. Thanks in advance. #grownostr #thinkdangerously

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Trainer Dan 1 year ago
Your view is a common one and it’s completely understandable that you would hold it if you’re getting news and information from government approved sources. Regime media pushes this narrative as part of the effort to restrict freedom and bring about technocratic rule in the name of saving the planet. As someone on NOSTR I assume you’re at least a little skeptical of the “allowed opinions” so check your priors and let me know what you discover. Specifically, go and look at the widely available open source official government data on birth rates. Do this for as many countries as you want. You’ll notice a pattern. This pattern does not support the official narrative so it is conveniently ignored although it’s not exactly hidden or suppressed. This information does not prove an anti-human agenda but it is one step down the rabbit hole. Keep walking and you’ll come to question even more.
Ah I think I see where you are going. I think you’re saying that because birth rates are coming down that could mean that there is a concerted effort on behalf of some centralized authority to reduce the human population. Let’s just say that if that is the plan, I am 100% on board with it. And I apologize because you are absolutely correct in your earlier post that I would definitely advocate for such an anti-human reproduction policy. I do think the world is grossly overpopulated and would favor reducing our numbers to the sub 50 million mark through generations of birth rate controls (even though I know this will never happen so peacefully). War, famine, or disease will likely (and very unfortunately) be needed instead. That said, sadly for people like me, I think reducing the human population is entirely at odds with what governments want. And as I mentioned before, their policy, propaganda, and cultural programming all support my argument that they are very much pro reproduction. Just like religion and other systems of control, all governments depend upon an unchecked supply of slaves to feed the illusion of their necessity. The birth rate coming down is not a sign of government interference to me. Instead it’s just a sign that more people are realizing that only a fool or dreamer would bring children into this hell hole. It’s just regression to the mean. In my opinion, nothing emboldens government and authoritarianism like a really dumb, poor, scared, and fertile population. People with kids are after all the easiest to threaten and control. If I’m the government, all I have to do is use my monopoly on violence to threaten to separate you from your child and you will comply. Wanna die for your kids? Even better cuz now the kid is entirely under the government’s control. Anyway, I still want to thank you for indulging my curiosity. Even though we are on opposite sides of this argument, I appreciate you taking the time to explain your side of it. I freely admit that I don’t know shit about fuck for certain. Cheers! #grownostr #thinkdangerously