I don't understand.
What do you mean by 'multiple interactions to succeed'?
Transaction fees on Lightning are in the order of one hundredth of one cent.
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Don't use Phoenix then.
If I have $50 of Bitcoin on the Lightning network. I don't care about custody.
If I put $1000 of Bitcoin on the Lightning network, I'll make sure I have my own keys.
"Bitcoin e-cash" is a misnomer. It's not Bitcoin. It's some shitcoin that may or may not be backed by Bitcoin.