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Help me understand. 1. Some have said that keeping OP_RETURN size small is important for node operator liability, because large OP_RETURN size could lead to relaying/storing full files of any kind (including the most awful stuff). 2. Yet, the OP_RETURN size limit is not a consensus rule, i.e. nothing prevents a miner from including a transaction with a huge OP_RETURN in a block, already now. 3. What Core is doing, and Knots is against, is changing the relay policy, that decides which unconfirmed transactions the node shares with other nodes (~broadcasting), before they are included in a block. Right now the default policy is to not relay a transaction with an OP_RETURN exceeding 80 bytes. 4. I tend to agree that largeish arbitrary files pose a risk to Bitcoin. I understand that it's already possible to store it in small chunks over multiple transactions or otherwise, but that would require special software to interpret. 5. Therefore, I believe the fundamental problem is not really being addressed. The fundamental problem is that there is not a true OP_RETURN size limit to begin with. 6. If we accept the premise that large OP_RETURN size is a risk to Bitcoin, we should make the OP_RETURN size limit a *consensus rule* going forward. That is, a transaction with a large OP_RETURN would be invalid, and no miner could include it in a new block (unlike now). 7. I believe this is called a SOFT FORK. Not a comfortable word, but I think that would be the consistent position here. Change my mind #asknostr nostr:nprofile1qyv8wumn8ghj7urjv4kkjatd9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgqgzx3h nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcqpqs05p3ha7en49dv8429tkk07nnfa9pcwczkf5x5qrdraqshxdje9sgew2ua nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqtxwaehxw309anxjmr5v4ezumn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tmwwp6kyvtjw3k8zcmp8pervct409shwdtwx45rxmp4xseryerdx3ehy7f4v3axvet9xsmrjdnxw9jnsuekw9nh2ertwvmkg6n5veen7cnjdaskgcmpwd6r6arjw4jsqgq6lcx8fc7h0p8t4ya9u0a92jnwavqe9rgjwwdw3wjgxfuxsz8rd5mths8c nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzemhxue69uhks6tnwshxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qpq2rv5lskctqxxs2c8rf2zlzc7xx3qpvzs3w4etgemauy9thegr43sugh36r nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7cnjvghxjme0qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcqyr7at68k4cxms9a7pdca5gzf3svqd95d3fj9j4vuyj0nyta8x3j2whad7ya nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skueqpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqqgxv4fvwxlyeepdute65q298rz75vjz7t57txdzkj8k2hq782h2ges3dvnqp nostr:nprofile1qyw8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttjv4kxz7fwwak8vuewwdcxzcm9qythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnxd46zuamf0ghxy6t6qqsqyredyxhqn0e4ln0mvh0v79rchpr0taeg4vcvt64te4kssx5pc0sk99k65
2025-10-08 13:08:49 from 1 relay(s) 4 replies ↓
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Agree. The only coherent thing to campaign about is a consensus change. I don't think I'd support such a consensus change, but I'm not at all sure either way.
2025-10-08 22:41:56 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Thoughts nostr:nprofile1qy8hwumn8ghj7mn2w4khqtndv5hszythwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmny9uqzpprrqa5g5z0vzy5k06c9gnnc485gcj84qufv88k5j8ljkmaqrxhgkgzyc0 nostr:nprofile1qyfhwue69uhhyetvv9uju6nzx56jucm0d5qs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsqzqvhpsfmr23gwhv795lgjc8uw0v44z3pe4sg2vlh08k0an3wx3cj96l2ln2 ? nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqj4y6gjyqacy98a8gkm8f74hu3hdyelndgdt4ehlf6xjd6m9kl6jqyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqsynyg59w8hqw76d5tl7t3zf6dgvmxe3wz5270cqphxppdyrpt2h3q3semac
2025-10-09 14:43:05 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply
Whelp, looks like nostr:nprofile1qy8hwumn8ghj7mn2w4khqtndv5hszythwden5te0dehhxarj9ekxzmny9uqzpprrqa5g5z0vzy5k06c9gnnc485gcj84qufv88k5j8ljkmaqrxhgkgzyc0 agrees. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqj4y6gjyqacy98a8gkm8f74hu3hdyelndgdt4ehlf6xjd6m9kl6jqyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqsynyg59w8hqw76d5tl7t3zf6dgvmxe3wz5270cqphxppdyrpt2h3q3semac nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzpprrqa5g5z0vzy5k06c9gnnc485gcj84qufv88k5j8ljkmaqrxhgqy8hwumn8ghj7mn2w4khqtndv5hsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshsqgptprsw8s9xt0v6p4va9cpp2ltp3c730s0qxmkzfuyy7e4rfutfn5e2ygum
2025-10-16 15:45:54 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent Reply