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Whoa.
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Dont talk english, sorry, u can write here why mullvad take bad decision ?
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How many here use mullvad VPN?..
I use ivpn personally.... I move away from solutions that get too big.
Do you have a better VPN to sell me?
what are your thoughts on protonVPN? same thing? if true it's a real shame they are linked with Obscura as one of the entry point I think
How does Obscura play into this?
I'm not understanding your specific claim. Mullvad currently only offers DAITA on a handful of servers so far so not fully integrated in their VPN service. It's based on the open source code of Maybenot which has at least been peer reviewed:
https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3603216.3624953
They way you explain this stuff makes me want to have nothing to do with you.
Community Note:
Mullvad’s DAITA is a feature that adds cover traffic and pads packet sizes to protect user privacy against traffic analysis. While it may slow speeds and increase data usage, there’s no verified evidence that it weakens security or enables government surveillance.
Did AI write this?

Spoiler: he does
Uh oh, your lack of education is showing
Exactly. If you have facts about weaknesses or actual evidence of malice share it without all the theater.
That's always the case.
I wonder
Wish your VPN worked on Artix with dinit.
Can you present a single objective example of this?
Servers: Centralized
Protocol: Isolated Packets
Opsec: Poor, reliant on Big Tech
Strategy: Not using better, already existing methods
There is more, but it's a lot to type out. Prehaps we should do info graphics for the future
Obscura as far as I know uses Apple/Mac for the clients, which has privacy issues at an OS level.
Thanks for writing in for an educational opportunity. Given your cunning intellect, we've decided to offer you a bounty of $40 in Bitcoin, to find a logical flaw (or factually untrue statement) in the 13 minute podcast for community benefit and education.
Surely you're not suggesting there are no flaws?
Your opinion of the speaker is subjective, and therefore can’t be debated. Can you find any objective flaws in the logic or facts?
What is the purpose in complaining about something, if you’re not going to do something about it?
Proton uses the same providers for many locations. And having both email and a VPN from this same company is a bad privacy move. We’ve criticized Proton’s email in the past as being a centralized metadata point.
I believe there is a fundamental misunderstanding here. I'm saying the government is using AI enslave you with surveillance-powered enforcement and mass manipulation of all knowledge. They want you to not read anything, and just obey what that spits out. The old SEO just mirrored society, but the new algorithms shape it.
And you're asking the AI if I'm right?!
Yeah sorry, the browser-only graphical environments won't launch on that. But even just the layer-1 systemwide might launch, and/or can plug configs into the official WG app. Does the official WG app from the protocol devs work on Artix?
So giving people access to more information faster, from more sources than ever before is leading us to enslavement...?
Sorry, but thats not a very strong argument.
And I don't respect scare tactics to sell users products or services they don't need.
There are tons of ways to use AI. And it took me less than 30 sec to know exactly why Mullvad is still the best VPN provider around.
understood thank you for the information appreciate it
You seem the be missing the point we were trying to make. You may be correct but your presentation comes off as immature bravado instead of cold calculated description of flaws and weaknesses. I'm sure it's appealing to some but if your goal is to warn people or convert Mullvad customers I think you'd find more success with a more mature presentation.
You make some good points in your podcast though. I will say I've never heard Mullvad or any respected privavcy expert say VPNs hide you from the NSA. Your ISP, yes but not state actors. If you are making that claim for your methods I'm skeptical, as I am of Mullvad.
That is fair, ok I respect that. In the future, things can be framed in a different marketing sense
True or false:
The creators of AI shape what it outputs
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True: The creators of any particular AI tool (or search engines, websites, books...) influence its outputs through design decisions, training data selection, and fine tuning. If the training data is common and reliable, the model's responses will be more cohesive and factual. Distortions or biases in the data harm the models testing and user performance. This is why early #woke AI models like Google's suck and as they removed those perspectives and guardrails, the models performance improved. Its still nowhere near as good as OpenAI but you see the point.
For some things, like a neutral subject such as pet hair, AI may be indeed a great tool
But for something advertised as "suppressed by big tech", with new original thoughts from the creator, in a brand new podcast... you're essentially saying "I do not care what you think. I only refer to the exact authority you're disputing"
In which case, there is no real purpose of Nosr. As you're saying you only have blind loyalty to the dictators over at Google
There are literally hundreds of AI models made by various companies and open source projects that anyone can use. It's no different than a book, website or search engine. If you don't like the answer then use a different tool.
The references in the Deep Research article that I generated were extremely thorough. So yes, I do trust that comprehensive research over your assertion against Mullvad.
Hey man, I understand your skepticism but allow me to re-frame this.
Our organization is mostly volunteers who create content and do development/programming at below market rates for the cause of liberty. We have both identified and then presented original solutions to the problems of Mullvad. These ideas are not widely debated, because there is a low profit margin in doing so. The VPN companies, Big Tech, and government are all very interested in suppressing them. And it requires a high attention and tech interest to comprehend them.
We are going against the grain, to innovate and develop solutions. This particular audio podcast may indeed have been miss-marketed. However, the points are solid. If you're interested in hearing honest and true criticism of mainstream products, and then solutions and ideas for those problems, this is it.
However, if you are just going to be pessimistic, without any actual flaw in the ideas, unfortunately our organization does not have time to devote to helping you. Further, it is unclear why you are interacting with us, if you do not want to hear our expertise on the exact subject the entire channel is about. Best of luck
Thanks for your time, I agree that IVPN is better than Mullvad, however many of the same flaws such as the datacenter selection exist there as well. One cool thing about our new VPN roll-out, is people can continue to use their existing VPN, and use our’s for a browser-only fingerprint. At just $1 in zaps, and doesn’t require sudo to install, it provides a great way to get someone’s feet wet to try it out with low risk. And the best part is, if you got IVPN on, then you’re anonymous to us. But it isn’t blocked or slow like Tor. This has a visual overview: vpn.simplifiedprivacy.com
Okay I'm sold. Let's try this.
Downloading now. I'll have the latest appimage, however your site doesn't instruct on how to run it. E. G. Find the file and run it,