AFAIK, zapping currently requires using LNURL, and I'm not interested in either self hosting that infrastructure or outsourcing it. When BOLT12 zapping (perhaps through BIP353 addresses) becomes a thing, I may set it up.
Tbh, though, mixing money and social interactions doesn't excite me. I'm not opposed to it, but to me the currency of a good conversation isn't money---its acknowledgement in the form of smiles, laughs, retorts, and the like.
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I don’t know how to undo a wallet creation or deactivate it on the app I’m using.
I would highly encourage you to set yourself up to become zappable. Zaps are a crucial part of nostr.
Zaps are interesting… I have an original thought or create something unique, I often get zero zaps but if I steal a meme from the Fediverse and post here I can get bitcoin!
It’s a funny old world…
#ProofOfTheft
You can just set up a lightning address to receive zaps; it just won't show up on your notes. In my experience though people will still see zaps you send as coming from you.
That's how I have things set up with speed wallet, and see no reason it wouldn't work if you've got your own self hosted address as well.
Some people are lucky to be able to earn a living doing what they love. Others invest their time and energy outside of their regular jobs creating and sharing things that they're passionate about. I want the latter to be able to receive appreciation from the communities they build for with as little friction as possible.
I'm usung NWC to send sats regularly to some orgs like Brink, nostr:npub10pensatlcfwktnvjjw2dtem38n6rvw8g6fv73h84cuacxn4c28eqyfn34f and nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm
Re LNURL vs BOLT12 and BIP 353 - is that a concern over maintenance, security, privacy or something else?
I always had that same feeling about combining microtransactions with microblogging, but, one has to keep an open mind. There are a lot of possible use cases.
I am not convinced that that is true, today.
It could be in future. It's worth experimenting, at least.
Agreed about the possible use cases. And I also realize that I probably oversimplified things in my previous post. A normal part of my conversations, which are maybe not normal conversations for other people 😜, is suggesting that we make small wagers when we disagree about something easily provable either now or in the near future (my wife and I even use a website, fatebook.io , that let's us collaborate on questions and compare our Brier scores). Zaps would be great for resolving those small bets, rather than having to email LN invoices around like I did for https://x.com/jxpcsnmz/status/1839444666988757306
Re: not using LNURL, it's mainly because I don't like hosting dynamic website code. It requires installing stuff on a server (requiring either a dedicated server or taking a risk with other stuff on the same server), breaks often in my experience, and is just not what I want to spend my time on. BIP353 looks promising because I'll just be able add a field to my existing DNS.
All that said, I haven't actually set up either LNURL or BIP353, so I could be confused about what they actually entail.
What crucial role do they play? (Honest question.) For content creators, I think it's probably better to convert readers into subscribers (e.g. BOLT12 recurring invoices), in the patreon model. For content consumers, the patronage model is also probably better at intelligently funding the kind of stuff that's good for you rather than a dopaminergic ad hoc process of zapping.
For algorithms, my understanding is that zaps are just an unverifiable statement between two people, e.g. you and I could sign a zap saying that one of us paid the other 1M BTC without even a single sat changing hands. If they were verifiable, they'd seem to give algorithmic advantage to rich people and that doesn't particularly interest me.