They totally fucked up. No question. Regarding my attitude: it doesn't take hero worship to recognize what I've learned from them and actually I think that since I never thought they were heroes, I don't actually feel particularly betrayed. I just think they're human and they fucked up. The dishonesty in your post is that Odell recommended dice rolls for years, watched as people didn't do enough rolls and lost their stack, and then started recommending against it. Was he right to do that? Nope. But did he start off telling people not to create their own entropy or did he discourage it for nefarious reasons? No. Pushing this clip without that context feels really shitty to me.

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The point is that he at some point changed his stance and trusted the secure element that was misused. It's understandable but the full context is that OP asked for proof that people passed off "don't roll dice" as expert advice. That's undisputed. Don't cry to me for simply showing the receipts. I'm less unforgiving about this particular mistake and more so the fact that Odell and NVK sat on the board of OpenSats while NVK brazenly bullied and denied funding to competitors and blocked/ridiculed security auditors to block them from finding bugs exactly like this. Odell rode high from the status he got from being affiliated with NVK. Now Odell's gotta take the hit that comes with blindly trusting him. Feel how you want to feel. Those guys have been corrupt for a long time and this reckoning was a long time coming. I sincerely hope they and the space learn from this and learns how to properly vet products, cryptography and most importantly the social layer.