Roger has become so hated that he's now underrated. His meltdown was classic and embarrassing, but he sold his side of the fork so it's clear he at least stood by what he said. Vitalik on the other hand... what a shameful legacy. He never was working to further Bitcoin as a movement. Scammer.

When someone has thousands of podcast hours, a short clip can easily misrepresent them. But I’ve heard him say “think for yourself” over and over. His opinions are his own, and I respect him for introducing more people to this space than anyone in the last 15 years. He’s now focused on bringing big money in, and while big money trusts banks, remember to hold your own keys. Let others do what they want, but you don’t have to follow.