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Honestly I shouldn't have tried conda, I also don't know where it all goes lol. Or how to Get it lol. Conda seems to go somewhere different to pip and I have to do something else in vscode. And ultimately I just stop caring cos it's such bullshit that it's really not worth the effort. It's all such utter shit. Devs should starve.

No i haven't, have you checked this out? Are you working through a tutorial? https://belangeo.github.io/pyo/download.html

I actually was using Grok to help me with install. It worked with pygame. But it was totally sending me round the houses with pyo. It constantly for things wrong. And I don't know what I'm doing, which makes it worse

I know this is wrong, I should've looked at the official document lol

Yeah, the llm points you one way, and when you get stuck go to the docs. Copy the error into a search engine, someone from stack overflow or a github comment would give you a hint into solving it. Or a new chat to start a conversation fresh