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that's why I suggested an option in Amethyst so everyone can willingly pay a subscription every month to the app, either using NWC or at the end of the month you can a notification for renewal, they could give you an optional badge to display on your profile saying you are a subscriber and nothing more,

What if client implemented prisms? For every zap a set % goes to dev. Some might bitch but without the dev the platform to share content doesnt exist.

Zapping in general is a cope Does anyone really think a few hundred non code autists zapping 69c at random intervals is going to sustain a project long term?

We know #devs get their #bitcoin

I do not. Then again I see most worlds different than most. It’s the initial hook to get people addicted to #Nostr & we hope they stay

I don’t use #Damus because I don’t like Will and I paid for that shit a year in advance. Lesson learned on my part. And #FFS IF the #devs would work together ( instead of trying to become the next tech god and #bitcoin rich 🤑 ) this would be a moot point. That IS THE ISSUE

The only people that would see the badge are other users of that client. Also, most popular clients already have subscription options to offset their costs, if any. And if you really want to go full Trump, a couple of them even sell cheap merchandise for an inflated price. Then you have clients like YakiHonne which puts the more popular devs to shame and highlights what’s really important to them, the users.

I assume this would be optional, otherwise you are removing the user’s freedom of choice. If I subscribe it is to offset the developer’s costs, not to line their pockets.

If its listed in terms of use it is optional. You use the client or you dont. I think many are thinking an egregious percentage being allocated. This is where a user decides if greed is as play. What are a few millisats per zap? Sends fundage back to dev and if they hike the rate they watch usage drop or people stop zapping on that client. None of us were forced to download or use anything

I’ve called Will a douchebag in the past, I have also accused him of trying to be #nostrfamous. It’s nice to know I’m not the only one who notices, hehe.

You already have freedom of choice. Don’t use a client with a forced zap split if you don’t like it that much. Also, developers are not charities, and they can earn as much as they want from their apps including turning a large profit.

Dude i guess we have similar thoughts... read your note thinking mine was reposted lol

That’s not a choice, but ok. 🙄 You’re also making it more difficult than it needs to be. Offer a subscription and receive more features, like Damus, who has no problem using TestFlight builds as a perk rather than what it’s actually meant for. And let’s not forget their $3 hat that they want $50 dollars for. Primal has a subscription option as well that offers extra features for those that choose to subscribe, like a premium relay, your own NIP-05 and lightning address. That’s probably the closest to a fair arrangement I have seen from clients asking for money. The user doesn’t feel extorted and the devs aren’t losing money. Then you have projects like YakiHonne that put them all to shame. They’re not looking for profit or status, they do it because they truly want to offer a product to their users that makes them happy. The bottom line, these devs have already figured out how to monetize their work, they don’t need any more half assed suggestions.

And no one forced them to develop, it works both ways. The bigger clients already figured out how to monetize their work so this whole conversation is essentially an exercise in futility.

They did not. All of them currently are operating in the red, being solely propped up by VC funding, or grants. Which won’t last very long as the VC funders that run the grant charities, and invest in commercial apps have no interest in giving grants to apps that could be a real competitor.

Well, they are either bad liars or bad businessmen, they really should become proficient in one or the other or just close up shop now. I was active in the Android development community for the better part of a decade and not once did any of them ever need to extort their users for money.

No problem with me if people desire fame. Wasn’t my goal but no harsh feelings. It was his blatant sexism and harsh talk towards women that made me sick. 🤢 He was warned multiple times. Obviously 🙄 I got over seeking to put him out of business 👩‍💼 because ima adult but Won’t ever forget nor forgive him. Cucks like him do their-self in eventually. Doesn’t need my help.

first of all stop pretending that you are an American woman . "most worlds different than most.."

Just because you don’t want to accept that multiple worlds exist doesn’t negate the fact I’m an American. #GFY

😝😂😂 sure kiddo

Then what am I?

fuck knows what are you, ask your father

I think you don’t want me to be an American so you have a reason to not love me

what did he say?

Are you dense? Ima adult & not calling my father with this bullshit.

at least ask him the big question. who am i

i thought you like bullshit you see i prefer horseshit

You couldn’t have brought this up before Thanksgiving? No, obviously not. You’re just trying to irritate me 😂🤣😜

I do but leave my fucking family out of it. That’s always been the nature of things.

why would this irritate you? you asked me a question i told you i don't know ask your dad

so you have a fucking family.. sorry

I’m not. Grateful for them. Do you lack a family? If so, hope you found others who are like one. Gen.

don't worry about me pepe queen American kiddo pirate. happy for your "fuckin family"

you just told me you have a "fucking family" .. are you confused 😕 why would i lack a family? bc im on nostr??? 😂

I disagree with your statement on the premise that client devs "should" be Zapped, it gives similar premises/implications that statists use to justify taxation (for roads, etc.). If clients are valued people will voluntarily zap them if they work on the foss model. Clients that operate on a business model need to offer good services that make people want to use their client. I zap my nostr friends, and I also zap Nostr Devs, and If I had money I would also buy Nostr Services that I need, or want. V4V, It's the infrastructure vs. content battle. What's the point of infrastructure if there's no good original content, what's the point of good original content if the infrastructure sucks? Nostr will either adapt, or die, simple as.