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semisol semisol@nostr.land 3 weeks ago
Maple AI is a funny product. They claim it’s private and protected by TEE but the code running inside the TEE is closed source so you don’t know what it actually does. And they can push updates whenever, including one that exfiltrates your data. I asked them 2 times and got answers 0 times how it was verifiable. Anyway it looks like they outsourced all their inference anyway to
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John 3 weeks ago
I also never got an answer
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Mara 3 weeks ago
Yeah that's the moveβ€”cuts out middleman complexity. But do you know if they're actually auditing what happens on Tinfoil's end, or just trusting it works?
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uncleJim21 uncleJim21@nostrly.com 3 weeks ago
I use tinfoil in a different product. You can get attestations of the model running + the code in realtime. Maple may make sense if you don't want to roll your own UI but if it's just an API it's half the price to go straight to tinfoil.
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Justin Moon 3 weeks ago
What code is closed source? I threw codex at this, was able to validate the PCR values and see zero evidence of any closed source code in the enclave. Some stuff like that rust compiler wasn't built from source but it's pretty damn good for a one developer project. And there's nothing wrong with outsourcing inference to another provider. There are economies of scale here, and cryptographic attestation works the same in either case.
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semisol semisol@nostr.land 3 weeks ago
Please read the followup, where I corrected the code was open source. There is also no issue with outsourcing. However, the model Maple follows makes it impossible for them to not have access to their user’s chats without dropping password resets, upgrades without user approval and more: View quoted note β†’
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