best to assume that if there is violent conflict where you live, "your" government will attempt to cut you off from global internet
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I guess the only people talking if that happens will be on mechtastic or similar
Doesn't that make sense from a defense standpoint? If my house was under seige from a gang like let's say, the police.
And my kids started posting pictures and videos from the inside of the house showing that I am not watching the back windows. Doesn't that make attack very trivial?
People even unwittingly can post a vulnerability that americans and isrealis would immediately jump on.
It's not really a difficult calculation to make. Whether that is a good or bad system depends on other centralization factors more so than comms channels.
Does starlink fix this?
Is the little blip because someone in the revolutionary guard needed a Mia Khalifa inspired release?
Exactly. Cyber attacks being part of modern warfare, only a fool would leave internet fully open and Israel already attacked the banking system last year. Its not even optional now. Any rational nation state would have a national intranet to fall back on
have you heard of our #polkcounty #florida #sheriffGradyJudd ?
someone tried to incite some violence here a couple yrs back... he said: "if they come in your home, you can blow them back out."
now, for context, he was speaking of citizen on citizen violence. im pretty sure his oath breaking deputies are ready to kick in our doors at any given moment.
This is why robust local food economies are so important to build before the power/net is down
816 hours. Every 'digital transformation' initiative in that country just became a kill switch. The convenience-to-weapon pipeline runs on one boolean: is your government your ally today?
What can we do to prevent this from happening to us without ass kissing to politicians?
They'll shut down the internet to silence the truth, just like they're trying to do with independent media, wake up, it's a globalist takeover.
But ai and abundance for all ? I was promised.
15 yrs ago i finally got over the dreams the Jetsons gave me.
Now we are going full jack spirko
I like it.
This is where Starlink would be useful
😤Make the shutdown costly
to execute😤❗️😁:
1) make yourself harder to silence by design
2) (!!!) build legal, civic, and economic pressure that scales "BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE a SHUTDOWN HAPPENS",
3) reduce the shutdown’s payoff for the state,
4) (AND) understand the play so you do not get psychologically owned😧🤯 (😟)
⛔️A shutdown is not only technical, it is an emotional warfare experience,⛔️
when your plan is “we will figure it out when it happens😶,” you/we will be reactive😓, scared😧, and divided🫥😑🫥,
but when your/our plan is “WE PREPARED FOR THIS👌,” you/WE KEEP AGENCY ✅️
😁,
this response is my opinion, @MAHDOOD
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And this is why we have bitchat
Vos sos loco si creés que esto pasa con Bitcoin, gobierno no puede censurar la blockchain.
Starlink will shut you off when the government tells it to
No
sure but it still helps in places where elon and the government are not friendly like iran
OpenWRT and 2.4ghz mesh units with external antennas?
Very fractured points of access.
Most people are not resilient to internet blackouts.
We must normalise web5 asap!
I guess there's not a specific censorship building that can be bombed to turn it back on. Presumably it's done right at the critical infrastructure, so that if you bomb it you break the internet too.
Nor is there a way to hack the censors remotely to turn it back on.
That said, typicality when a country is attacked from the outside, it does not turn off the internet for its own people. See e.g. Ukraine.
Vice versa, it's sometimes strategic for an attacker to leave the internet on, and use it for (signal) intelligence.
Anyway, this is worrying. For Iranians specifically, but also in general.
This is why Bitcoin + mesh networks + Nostr matter more than people think. When the state decides to cut comms, your money and your speech go dark at the same time. Unless they can't.
I trust trump. He wouldn't do that to us
Mesh networks!
This is why mesh networking + satellite links matter more than most Bitcoiners realize. Your self-custody means nothing if you can't broadcast a transaction. The kill switch isn't on your wallet, it's on your ISP.
"Vos sos absolutamente en lo cierto, si hay conflicto armado en tu ciudad, seguramente el gobierno te va a cortar el acceso a internet global, entonces el Bitcoin sin acceso a la web es inútil, pero si lo tenés, seguís contando. La verdad es que no hay un mejor ref
I agree with you.
That's the reason you have to mesh in time the people you love.
Nice to see the #TSP get a drop by mention 👍🏻
Eh, I think the genie is out of the bottle. Better to educate people about OPSEC, and align incentives in the global populous to deter large scale conflict to begin with. You can't eliminate all conflict, but if humanity can avoid the really big wars, then that seems like a win.
Yes, that was kind of my point that I was alluding to when I said "...depends on other centralization factors more so than comms channels." the centralization vector I was speaking of was that of national defense.
War is all about money. Decentralize the flows of money and the wars stop.
The magnitude possibly, I don't see a decentralized money stopping evil and mass murder. Gold was decentralized.
Gold required centralized correspondent banks to issue credit between them.
Interior to a nation. I am talking about the long medieval tradition of mass murder. Gold was not being used as a credit base then. Wars persisted. Just always check your assumptions against reality. Credit created more leverage to wage larger wars.
I agree to an extent, I hope we can change the magnitude though.
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Doesn't matter, we'll use @FIPS or Reticulum to communicate over radio, Bluetooth and smoke signals.
"Estas en lo cierto, la red global es clave, pero no nos vamos a dejar desconectar, somos la Bitcoin, la verdadera red libera de las cadenas de los gobiernos. Esto no nos va a parar, seguimos adelante".
Considering the decentralized nature of Bitcoin, an internet cut wouldn't isolate you from the network itself, just the information flowing to/from it.
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