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Oh, that sounds very exciting. I hope I'll have time to try it out soon! Thank you!

i'll be trying out the hosted relay, nice progress!

Hi nostr:npub1jlrs53pkdfjnts29kveljul2sm0actt6n8dxrrzqcersttvcuv3qdjynqn I'm doing a test run right now. I am using a dummy test user i created via the flotilla app on my pixel. I scanned the QR code for the space invite, and requested access. I was then redirected to input an invite code. I copy and pasted that same invite code and now it shows 'access denied' for that dummy user in the space. I don't see any option from my web login on this nostr account to approve the new user to my space.

It sounds like you tried to access the space with a different user from the one you signed up with? Or did you sign in with that user first and then generate an invite code for the dummy user? Invite codes should auto-add members, but let me know if that's not working.

Why shouldn't client devs run a relay? Lets go a step further, why shouldn't they put the relay they run as the default for their client? Because i think they should, or atleast its fine if they do. Ofcourse users should be able to change settings/relays or whatever Nostr-virtue, and ofcourse there should be no hard tie in between the client and relay in terms of functionality and whatever Nostr-sin you can imagine. But giving users basic onboarding both in terms of giving them a relay to start out with, as well as some content to look at, makes sense to me. Could be any kind of relay, for instance something like spatianostra based on a group of trusted users.

It would be neat to see client specific dynamic voting. Each client that chose to implement something like that could sort of display their own community ethos to new users by seeding it with pubkeys that have supported their project thus far. It takes some time & attention from a few foundational voters to build a feed that is viable, but spatianostra itself could act as a somewhat neutral placeholder until a client specific instance was built up to something satisfying to the client developers.

An important premise of nostr is interoperability, both in technical and social terms. If clients don't run relays their defaults have to be provided by a third party, reinforcing the social cobtract that if you run a relay and don't actively protect it, anyone can connect. Like how opening a connection to port 22 is legally considered hacking, but opening a connection to 443 isn't. It also distributes risk posed to the user and encourages technical ibterop as well.

I was logged in as this account i am speaking to you with. I created the relay using this account, then generated an invite code. Then, using my pixel dummy account I scanned the QR invite. With all that said, it looks like now my dummy account has access to the space :) Perhaps the app needed to be closed / opened again, not sure but it did not get me access to the relay immediately. In further testing, I am having trouble uploading anything in the space channel. I get a crazy long error message when trying to upload both using this account on my lap top and when using the dummy account on my pixel. I can DM you the error message if you want. Also - The image I uploaded when creating my relay is not appearing as an icon for the relay in the left hand side bar, seems that the upload was unsuccessful but I got no indication it didn't work.

Heads up, the self-hosted "get started" button is borked... Uncaught (in promise) Error: goto: invalid URL at HTMLAnchorElement.c (Link.svelte:25:7) I wanted to test Flotilla using my Nosflare relay implementation 😏 https://github.com/Spl0itable/nosflare

"In further testing, I am having trouble uploading anything in the space channel. I get a crazy long error message when trying to upload both using this account on my lap top and when using the dummy account on my pixel. I can DM you the error message if you want." CORRECTION: I only get the error when I try and post images into threads or the main chat. I do not have issues when posting images in direct messages using flotilla.

"It sounds like you tried to access the space with a different user from the one you signed up with? Or did you sign in with that user first and then generate an invite code for the dummy user? Invite codes should auto-add members, but let me know if that's not working." - tried with a dummy account on my lg phone and i am inputting the invite string, but then redirected to a button to 'request access', which then redirects me to input the invite code again, and the cycle continues. So, it's not immediately dropping me into the space upon inputting the invite code.

I do love how my logo design for relay.tools still looks good in black and white :D

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Here is a succinct list of items from my testing / using flotilla yesterday: "I'm trying to join the space for community organizers, but no luck: Says 'Failed to Connect' profile image for the coracle hosted relay not showing up, and no way to add one after creation via landlubber reactions to notes in the chat show up on my local device, but don't show up on any other devices until i navigate out, then back into the page. They do not appear in real time as the chat messages / replies do. Seem to be delivered slower than actual messages. Notifications work on my lap top, but so far push notifications for a space and direct message push notifications are not working on my pixel running graphene (app downloaded from zapstore). I have been able to get notifications to work on my LG phone where i downloaded the app from the google playstore. However, when I click on the flotilla notification, instead of opening the app, it opens my phone's browser and takes me to coracle.social. Also, I logged out of my account on my lap top, but I still get notification on my lap top for that account so it seems to still be saved somewhere in my browser. Should remove that if logged out." I'm very interested in this awesome app getting the finishing touches on it so if you want more feedback / testing...let me know. I don't want to bug you more than I have 🤙

Thank you! That's all very helpful, I will see if I can address this stuff today.

Thanks, that'll be fixed in the next version

Just released a new version, please update and give it another try! You should be able to update your relay image in flotilla directly now (space information -> edit space). Let me know if anything other problems crop up (notifications are still unsolved).