> You can't solve the core issue. That's what I've been saying, the only levers to pull are trust and centralization. > there can be no other emergent L2 That's a fact created by those unsolvable core issues, another "L2" that attempts to solve perceived issues in Lightning can only do so by adding trust and/or centralization, which make it NOT an L2. Ark is a scam. VTXO's are not real. Liquid might have acceptable trade-offs for many, if it were honest, it's falling into the scam marketing trap by pretending to be an L2 and self-custody. Nothing can be made better than Lightning, because Lightning faces unsolveable issues. Trust and centralization are not solutions. Decentralizing trust is the only realistic mitigation, and that's why Pub focuses on that.