I was making a joke about the comedian. Clearly Trump is not even close to the beginning of Americas current problems. He sure as hell isn't helping though.

Yea I know- it was more in response to Spud that you responded to. Trump is just an acceleration of previous meddling attempts by the US govt

Goes back pre 9/11… I can remember folks cussing up Americans for Babylonian exploits as far back as 93. I’m sure it goes back further, just my first real memory of it… Gulf War 1 kicked that off.