The vast majority of people are selfish and won't pay for something if they can get it for free. How do you propose we enact this behaviour change? If only a very small proportion of people will ever zap, can this ever be a model that could subsume paywalls/paying before you get the information?

“Engagement was always a horrible metric. Attention was always a horrible currency.” This is so important and I hope that as engineers and communities we take inspiration from this to do better in the future because I believe we can 🤍

I deleted mine!

I like this value4value thinking

or in other words, eliminate the fiat spigot, since the arbitrary firehosing of new tokens leads to elaborate and sensless games.

From the perspective of the Borg, most cultures and people are already homoginized. These [insert] kill these other [insert] because of [insert] reasons. Its all quite boring. True Individuals, rise from that, like cream. Individuality is at the margins. This is true for any culture. Out of the mass trend come the next great artwork, the counter-culture to that, or the perfection of that drone , each becoming the height of that art. Infinite differences, infinite combinations. But some, most, are probably quite mid.

Good. Self selects the signal. A paywall by a closed protocol means info can censored, that needs to be out. An open protocol only needs one philanthropist to share that info, and break faith, in game theory terms. In other words, part of having an inteligent signal is recognizing it needs to be financially supported, those who support it finacially have inteligent things to say.

Not everyone needs to give back or is expected to give back. Patreon and Substack work.

V4V goes beyond zaps. Patreon/Substack/etc clearly shows that this can be sustainable for many people and is the better model for most non-shallow content. My argument is that the reason why someone signs up for someone's Patreon is not because they'll have access to potentially paywalled content. Paywalls weren't even a thing in the early days of Substack, proving my point.

In your opinion is it feasible (on a practical level) for a creator within the bitcoin and Nostr “space” to take a V4V approach with their content using bitcoin-only, or do fiat payment methods need to be part of their approach? Technologically, sats/zaps/lightning makes it all so much easier, especially when you can start to incorporate automatic lightning splits, but practically, many people just seem more willing to part with dollars and cents than with sats.

I like nostr. Seems calm compared to x.

Hey, do you want to come on TGFN and convince me? I am a v4v skeptic still, but I sort of want to believe

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