Thread - Nostr Hypermedia

Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 8 months ago

NIP 17: You put your own DM relay and it works with any client without having to tell your friends which server to use. It's your server, so you can delete all your DMs at any moment and block everyone else from downloading them. Full control. Your infra. No central hub. Fully interoperable. No more trackers from any company.

Replies (17)

the axiom 8 months ago

no love for marmot?

ThatWhichisNotSeen paybastiat@zaps.thatwhichisnotseen.st 8 months ago

Someday, but im still running into many interoperability problems between clients.

Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 8 months ago

Which clients?

ThatWhichisNotSeen paybastiat@zaps.thatwhichisnotseen.st 8 months ago

The ones i have mainly been testing are: OxChat Flotilla Amethyst Yakihonne

Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 8 months ago

I will do some checks in those as well

𝚁𝚢𝚊𝚗 🏴‍☠️🎶 ryan@spatia-arcana.com 8 months ago

+1 I haven't tested lately, but I had trouble with nip17 between Amy & Yaki. I spoke with @elsat about it and I think it was added to the Nostrability Github.

ThatWhichisNotSeen paybastiat@zaps.thatwhichisnotseen.st 8 months ago

Yes, yakihonne seems to have the least interoperability in the ones ive tested at the moment.

elsat elsat@habla.news 8 months ago

Thanks gents. Confirming I found interoperability friction on Yakihonne. I passed on my findings to team Yaki cc @WendyDing

REDKAZ⚡️| YakiHonne redkaz@yakihonne.com 8 months ago

Wendy passed them to us well received elsat we will look into them 🙏

REDKAZ⚡️| YakiHonne redkaz@yakihonne.com 8 months ago

We are on elsat findings 🙏 thanks for the feedback

Zio Mc me@ziomc.com 8 months ago

Marmot doesn't use nip17 but nip-ee (signal over relay)

PixelBob 8 months ago

Hard to keep track, so nip17 is the easier to implement DM, and Marmot is the full on ultimate privacy DM and group chat, but much more work to implement?

Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 8 months ago

Yep. Marmot is its own protocol because it is so complex.

Vitor Pamplona _@vitorpamplona.com 8 months ago

I like Marmot, but it is very complex for clients to implement. It's not going to have widespread support in nostr. Any need for a large shared lib in nostr is doomed to fail.

Zio Mc me@ziomc.com 8 months ago

I think nip17 is enough to respect the privacy.

the axiom 8 months ago

reasonable take, thank you

YODL yodl@nostr.land 8 months ago

This sounds important! Well done, smart people!