signal is not perfect but offers a pretty awesome tradeoff balance: great ux, reliable, strong privacy guarantees
matrix does not have auto delete messages and the apps are shit
simplex is solid but reliability and ux could be better
keet is not open source
whitenoise is promising but early
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Keychat is dope.
Element X works kind of nice, but yeah, I am missing a better UX overall on desktop and anywhere outside Element X for matrix.
For me it is the best option though. Open source, decentralised, and I get to guard my own key to messages.
Apps… not great but usable. To me, my daily use tool. What do you pick for secure private chatting? @ODELL
Deltachat is interesting.
its Openpgp and not Signal encryption.
so no perfect forward secrecy
but e2ee chats over email?!
Not Another Protocol™ ?
and its extremely easy to spin of an email server
so you can have your selfhosted strong encrypted messages and hide metadata without dealing with Simplex relays and usability.
Delta chat is clunky
Keet.io
I’ve been using simplex for some time and I’m very happy with it. Has tradeoffs? Yes. But also way better privacy
Signal without phone number would also be something to consider for better UX
I thought they open sourced keet, no?
Session.
So freaking usable. No PFS but it's Anon so good enough. At least it works.
@ODELL you are damn it right. People out there want to keep it simple, reliable and functional.
Easy. Give them what they want in a profitable way.