Anybody recommendations on why and how to fast
Is fasting from 20:00-12:00 enough?
What are the benefits
Does it work good together with weight training?
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I think Dr. Anthony Chaffee mentioned it is his preferred way to eat twice a day and he is doing his workout before the first meal. So should be good together with workout
Yes, 16 hours window is the minimum to feel any benefits. Benefits start at 14 hours of fasting but if you break you fast then you hone have the chance for any benefits to kick in. I love training early fasted.
This is my "bro science" take as a pretty active weight lifter.
It has to do with your body being in a catabolic vs anabolic state. Keeping yourself in a catabolic state will cause weight loss, anabolic is your body building itself up.
Training while in a catabolic state (calorie deficit) your body will breakdown fats and proteins because it does not have excess carbohydrates to use as fuel.
Training in an anabolic state (calorie surplus) your body will store fats and build muscle (proteins) and burn excess carbs.
It just depends on your goals. Weight training in a catabolic state will basically burn fats and you will maintain muscle.
Wights in a anabolic state your body will store carbs as fat while it builds muscle.
I think there is a balance where you can find a happy medium if you want to maintain your body type. Generally I just listen to what my body needs/wants and feed it when I know it's going to want fuel or does not need fuel.
When I'm heavy into the weights I eat like a freak, heavy on proteins and carbs; basically I want to feel semi full all the time. Your body needs excess calories to build muscle. Generally along with that you store some fat. Lots of people call this "bulking" (anabolic); calorie surplus. Something close to eating every 4-5 hours and alot less sleep (body needs less rest because it has excess fuel).
Alternatively when I'm feeling a bit heavy/fat after bulking I'll start "cutting" (catabolic); calorie deficit. Im moderately hungry a lot. But my body is burning that fat off. More so lean in on cardio, weights in this state will generally just maintain strength. Eating every 6-8 hours alot more sleep (body needs more rest to rebuild because it lacks fuel).
Your body does not just switch into anabolic or catabolic quickly, usually takes a week or two for your body to adjust to the changes in caloric intake. Generally feels like "resetting" your appetite. All depends on your goals!
Depends on what you’d like to achieve. Fasting is traditionally used to cleanse and „reset“ the body. If memory serves, it goes back centuries in Christian history and of course there’s Ramadan, celebrated in Islam. Depending on the type of fasting there’s claimed benefits around glucose and insulin regulation and flushing out toxins, better sleep, increased energy, etc. YMMV and DYOR though.
Regarding weight training, it again depends. Intermittent fasting (e.g. 20:00-12:00 and alike) works well with weight training or exercise if you want to lose fat, provided your diet and caloric intake is balanced. I did it for about 8-10 months or so and felt great. I haven’t done multi-day fasts though, so no idea how well that works with exercise.
If you need a good intro resource, check out the Zero app. Lots of good content around all types of fasting, longevity etc. and their tracker is quite good. IIRC the basic version is still free. hth, friend.
Coffee is okey to drink during the fast?
What about raw milk?
What benefits are you experiencing?
Wow thanks for all your information!
Really appreciate you writing this
I don’t eat much carbs. And especially not processed ones. Only carbs I eat are from sourdough, raw milk, raw honey and fruit
And it works wonderful for me
Thank you so much for this reply! Exactly what I was looking for
Appreciate it
Do you need to change diet or are you just curious?
Those are great carbs! Milk protein is amazing as well. Not all carbs are the same and not all proteins are the same!
Muscles are built in the kitchen just as much as the gym. Happy training! 🤙🫡👊
In addition to the shorter intermittent fasting I would also say to consider trying a longer fast.
For me my first multi day fast really changed my perspective on food and hunger.
It feels profoundly empowering to know that you can go a week without eating and only drinking water. It changes your relationship to food because no longer can you ever believe the voice in your head that says you need to eat or you can't function without lunch. You have proved to yourself that it is mental. Once you get through the first day or so the hunger signals become quiet and you realise that they were just noise. The addictions in your Brain talking to you rather than a genuine urgent need for food.
It feels very freeing.
Just curious
Crazy experience I think! Will definitely try it one day
Thanks for your input. Appreciate it
I can understand fasting to clean your body, but if you're eating healthy and clean, i don't see how fasting would help..
That’s exactly the view I have. And every time I get into the topic I remain that opinion
Just eat clean single ingredient food
Great vid to get started :)
This is a good vid on the five day fast
Btw you don’t have to do a 5 day fast, it goes over the basics of everything
Coffee is fine, milk has sugars so depends on the amount you're talking about and how much it takes to knock you out of ketosis. Probably better to keep consumption withing your eating window.
My energy levels are super stable. No peaks and troughs.
The key is to listen to your body. Eat when you actually feel hungry and don't be a slave to the clock. Sometimes you'll not feel hungry at 12 so delay a little that day and get extra benefits of a slightly deeper fast. Some days you'll feel hungry at 10 so just eat and don't feel bad about it. Instead examine what you ate the day before that meant you didn't consume enough calories to get you through to 12 and adapt.
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
Thanks bro
Lmk if this works
Yo Humble this is a more applicable vid lol
Deeper autophagy is probably the most valuable effect of fasting. Even a good diet with all natural whole foods doesn't achieve that without the longer fasting periods.
Dr Sung is doing what I’m doing as well.
I do intermittent fasting consisting of 8hr eating window and 16hr of fasting. And, fasting for 24hrs once a week (I do mine every Sunday)
Metabolism mental for me though. 4 was enough. I just lost a lot of weight but yes empowering, and energising.
36hrs is perfect IMO, just skip food for a day once or twice a week. Coffee and tea is fine, no milk/sugar/cream/etc.
The point is to get into ketosis, so your body uses it's own fat for energy - you will feel mentally and physically sharper/less sluggish.