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Nas are primarily for storage, I wouldnt try and run a node off it. You cam get a mini pc for cheaper than a nas+storage and itll be faster. A node doesnt need a huge amt of storage like a nas has to offer. Id get a mini pc with expandable storage and ram

I like Umbrel, but it's more difficult to backup than Start 9. You could install m.2 SSD on a mini computer on the cheap(especially this week). It's not hard. I also like the iFix it toolkit, but you really just need a small screwdriver.

Thank you. I was worried about that. I am planning to need a stupid large amount of storage for other things. I guess separate components are probably the most cost effective way to do that without going down some rabbit hole of building things, eh?

I have a synology and really love it for storage-based use-cases: local machine backups, photo library, media server, gitea, etc. It's primary purpose is storing my lifetime of photos, which also get backed up periodically to a Borg cloud service. I use Umbrel for bitcoin/lightning, and a full-on cloud VPS for all my other self-hosted stuff (including a nostr relay). I guess i have an relay on the umbrel, too, but it mostly just mirrors all my notes as a kind of backup to my VPS personal relay.

How much storage do you need?

Thank you, I utilize Umbrel similarly. I thought about going the VPS route but I think I'd rather stay in-house 😅 Do you use synology apps or 3rd party stuff for that?

Option 2 and a seperate storage thing might be my best option. Thank you.

Planning on a min 14Tb to start

Oh wow. You might as well get a rack. 🤣

Yeah id say right tool for the right job. If you need storage get a nas. If you want to do a full on server, get one of those. Depending on what all you want to do will determine how beefy a server you shld get.

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Hopes & dreams lol 🫂

If you're getting a nas, decide how much storage you need, double that, then add a little more. Unless you're very meticulous on cleaning out your drives, you'll fill it much faster than you think. Its also a huge pain in the ass to add more storage capacity to a nas, after the fact. If you're using any redundancy (and you should be) then adding capacity is not a simple plug and play affair and you risk your data in the upgrade.

This is good info & the stuff not seen in reviews. I may need to statt over on research 😂

Nostr ftw lol

a mix of synology stuff for basics and docker containers for torrents and a few other things.

That seems to be a resounding answer. Thank you.

Awesome, thanks. It was one of few that appeared to handle docker well, in the reviews.

I modified the Nostr relay app that is in Umbrel 's app store to both read and write. Just do that, and take advantage of Umbrel 's ability to add additional capacity now if and when you run out of space.

I don't you will regret having a storage thingy that will just work out of the box, and probably will continue to work. Do your experiments on whatever hardware, i.e. go run that limited nostr relay off of your fridge or smart toaster or whatever.

Synology recently made a change to only allow use of their bundled harddrives and rejected third party drives. That’s when I sent it back and switched to UGREEN instead. I think they have reverted that decision after much backlash but be sure to check.

Another thing to consider is if you plan to add additional disks later. Depending on your setup you usually use one harddrive for mirroring/parity, so e.g. with 4 drives you only „loose“ 25% of space. With Synology it’s easier to add drives later (they have a mode called SHR that allows that) - with many other vendors you have to copy/restore all your data when extending with additional drives.

That appears to be the general consensus. Why can't I just have one thing that does all the things at a fraction of the price of the thing that already does all the things. Is that too much to ask? 😅

Will do, thank you!

If you want storage plus a few lightweight services without turning your home into a datacenter, a nas is the sweet spot. Synology won’t replace a full server, but they’ll run a small Nostr relay just fine. Zero regrets if you value simplicity over tinkering.

Portainer in the umbrel store let's you run custom docker containers