but we don't say that dogs dont have feelings because it's brainwaves, blood pressure and body temperature don't behave like ours. I mean we COULD, we just can't prove it. there isn't any scientific data that we can collect that proves "feeling" in something. and certainly not it's absence. Even if we could consistently show that people in a MRI have a certain reaction under certain stimuli, there's no way to show that *another being doesn't experience the same thing, despite NOT having the same physiological reaction under those stimulus. it's not an easy problem. and I don't think the Turing test is abstract philosophy. He certainly didn't. it's very concrete. what data are you going to collect which you consider indicative of feeling? besides ”CAN the thing convince you it feels? ” a dog can. mostly because dogs have eyebrows. a fish... not so much. does having eyebrows make something have feelings? (obviously not Turing test stuff 😂 but I hope you get my point)