To be fair, the first of those passages is from the Hadiths; the second, the Talmud, both of which are, essentially, compilations of *commentaries* on their core materials: the Quran and the Torah. I've noticed that the more heavily an individual, sect or tribe leans towards the commentaries, the mors evils they are likely to commit, facilitate and justify. There's a minority of Muslims and Jews who reject the alleged divinity of these works, disregarding them as apocryphal trash. Acanonical at best; at worst, anticanonical. They tend to be more level-headed, peaceful, happy and humble. In Western societies, they integrate well within their host communities, earning the respect of those around them, rather than irreciprocally demanding it. The majority of Muslims and Jews see them as heretics, and can be quite unpleasant to them, to say the least.