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i have not 👀 lemme dive in
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let me know how it goes 🫡
I haven't read that one but Stephen C Meyer's books are absolute bangers and they make you feel like you can understand science way above your pay grade
No, but I want to 😇👍
Can I offer a rabbit hole too? 🤣
that title makes it sound like he’s got a PhD in science… He’s an evangelical Christian who did his PhD in philosophy. Where he philosophised about what science is in a societal context. His undergrad was focussed on oil exploration.
Other than a brief stint in oil exploration, the dude has made his entire career out of selling books to evangelicals, and giving talks to evangelicals.
He even started the ‘Centre for Science and Culture’. Which has never done anything scientific - its core agenda is to manipulate American education and culture into being more evangelical. They even had a core confidential document leaked years ago that stated their plan to become a wedge between Americans and any science that explains life, the universe, and human beings (without invoking god). You can probably still find the original one that leaked (not the one that was updated for PR reasons 😂)
If you like rabbit holes, looking into this guys history as a conman is a good one 😂
Which is why his points he makes are always flawed. Because they are always purposefully incorrect, misinterpreted, out of context, or just vague claims, all with the intent of leading people to Christianity under the guise of scientific critique.
Have you read any of his books?
This guy is the ultimate FUDster.. spent his career arguing against decentralisation in nature 😅
No, I’ve seen a couple lectures and a debate. Which is enough to assure me that I should not waste time or money on his content. Because if you’re familiar with palaeontology and evolution, then you clearly see him purposefully misleading his audience. Kinda like listening to Peter Schiff for bitcoin advice.
Just to be clear. I have no problem with his or anyone’s religion. Religion can obviously support people doing great things! But I take issue with anyone trying to trick others into aligning with their world view. Especially when they do it at scale by targeting education and politics.
oh so you're one of those people who is afraid to read books you disagree with, and then you tell other people to not read the books you also haven't read. Got it.
Nope 😅 I’ve literally watched him lecture with an open mind where he summarises his book. And watched more of his content to make sure I understood his reasoning! Then I felt like I needed to learn more about him because he didn’t seem to speak truly about the subjects he critiqued.
So no, I’m definitely not afraid to read his books.. But if his goal clearly wasn’t education, his goal is to trick people - why would I pay him for a book? That would be like paying for a flat earth book.. a book isn’t a force field. If an argument collapses in a lecture and under experimentation, it doesn’t magically become true once it’s written in a chapter.
Also, did I tell you not to read the book? In fact if it raises questions for you then I’d encourage it!
I think if you have time, then it would be a great idea to read his books along with the actual theories he disputes (explosive evolutionary events, modern theory of evolution, fossil preservation conditions and regions).
But if you follow his messaging alone, then you’ll never be exposed to the actual theories that he pretends to ‘disprove’. So you’ll have no way of verifying for yourself. You’ll be trusting just him with your world view - which is what all conmen want.
Anyway, it seems I annoyed you. And I am sorry about that
Evolution is an observable fact of reality like gravity.
Straight up retardation.
He isn't debunking evolution he is making up his own retarded version of evolution like some Pokemon type shit and then debunking that.
All I see are ad hominem ("against the man") attacks, no refutation of the substance of his arguments...
Nothing I said addresses the ‘truth’ of his claims based on who he is 😅 I was explaining why his presentation as an authority on the topic is very purposefully misleading.
That’s not an ad hominem fallacy; it’s assessing his credibility.
I can discuss the actual scientific points from the video too. But I haven’t because that would take even longer to tap out. And really, if you like rabbit holes, then hearing of controversial context should be enough to make you fact check it yourself. Which is why I pointed out his lack of credibility. I thought someone who questions things would like a bit more juice on the topic.
Also, if someone is actually into questioning very robust theories that have withstood countless scientific challenges for generations (like evolution or relativity). I kind of assumed they’d be very keen to know about the first person to ever prove the theory wrong. You know, who they get their info from. Because that would make them the most profound scientific figure of this century! 🤩🥳
I dont think you should take my word for it. Look him up. Read his stuff or watch his lectures. Whenever he makes a point, go and read what the actual scientific consensus is and what the literature says. You’ll find his big gaps that he very conveniently never mentions, and most of his points that he misrepresents, or possibly hasn’t even bothered to read. His own CV shows he’s not even remotely qualified, trained, or experienced on the topic (though he sure enjoys giving humanities work science-sounding names 😂). You can find for yourself that he led an organisation with the goal of making the American culture more theistic in its values by driving a wedge between empirical scientific research and the American education & politics 😅 the dude openly tries to manipulate the masses.. and makes a living from it.
Or, just focus on the fact that I don’t recommend trusting the guy 😂
Yo that was really cool 💯
I fw it, not all of it but i fw it
I’ve never been one to believe in Darwinism because of personal beliefs surrounding the way of life i practice but it’s always great to read everything and listen to make up my own mind about these things
I fucking love history so stuff like this is always a treat
