well we need a reason to use them. Which is partly why i am advocating for clients to integrate their own groups for chat channels and a forum where users can get into contact with eachother as wel as the developers of the app. The nice thing there is that you don't have to leave the app to access that group/forum, while at the same time, all of those various groups are accessable via apps dedicated nip29 apps. Which at some point now become usefull because i might be already active in a bunch of groups.