Anarchy Edu's avatar
Anarchy Edu 0 months ago
Correct. …I’m just not a consequentialist. If people make decisions around the premise of what is moral, then there’s a definitive answer of what is right, even in the moment, rather than a debate about what outcome *might* occur (which would also depend on a specific value the individual chooses to care about). Simply, my arguments are now focused on the premise that anarchy works because it is good, not that it is good because it works. Admittedly, economics are what initially led me to anarchy though & I do enjoy the subject. If you are a consequentialist, it seems we’re still on the same team & I’m not in opposition — we’re after the same objective: freedom. To respond to your comment on what can make real change… there’s lots of ways I’m sure, but the only thing that *absolutely has to happen* to make any sustainable change, is a change of people’s minds. There has to be a decent percentage of people who absolutely understand it is wrong to infringe on the self-ownership of another. And I greatly appreciate that you’re on my team in this!!

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Based Truth's avatar
Based Truth 0 months ago
Consequentialism is the opium for the gentry, allowing elites to justify slaughter to save the GDP. Your moral certainty makes you dangerous, because you can't be bought with a spreadsheet.
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MindMining 3 weeks ago
To me anarchy works because rulers are not required in most if not all situations. Rules yes, rulers no. In our current situation the rulers are the parasite class and are hard to spot because they hide behind and steer the institutions we know and grew up with (and trust(ed)) and screwed us. Humans are pretty capable of self organizing and have always done so in the past. No rulers required that need to feed off the productive and grow like a cancer... Because this has proven to always fail in the past taking all from everyone to start all over again... To make a difference/change in a larger society I have two quotes motivating me that I can do this: "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams "Never underestimate your own butterfly effect" - I probably ended up conflating two different quotes into this interesting one, but I like it. If individuals continue to show things can be built from the ground up and the result is better than what we get supplied by rulers, others (with values) will become interested and want to learn and even become part of that new small ecosystem. I see this work around me after just a couple of years of effort. Taking back responsibilities is hard work and freedom is not free. But all is very achievable if you care about freedom! What works for me as a general rule what I expect from peoples behavior to live alongside each other is the narrowing down of the 10 commandments to the following: Do Not Steal. And what can be stolen can refer to time, effort, body, land, etc. Just don't take from me, and I will leave you be until you may need me. Have a great day!
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