I was not trying to propose a way forward in that regard to be honest, but I bring it up in relation to the removal of the 80 bytes limits. I don't think It can be argued that lifting the OP_RETURN limit serves the purpose of mining decentralization thanks to a leaner UTXO set, precisely because of it being more expensive to embed larger arbitrary data in outputs. Historical developments in Bitcoin Core make me suspicious of the argument that OP_RETURN should have no limits in order to protect the UTXO set. Had this been the goal, Core devs would have tried to somehow contain the effects of ordinals. Since this didn't happen, I can only conclude that v30 is removing this relay policy fllter for other reasons which I do not at this point understand. With regards to mining decentralization, I think the community should focus its time and energy on StratumV2, but this entails talking to miners and convincing them of the benefits of block template selection etc etc

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SatsAndSports 2 months ago
> Core devs would have tried to somehow contain the effects of ordinals Be practical. What do you mean here? Do you mean a fork should have been rushed out to make ordinals non-consensus-valid? If yes, how do you define an 'ordinal'? For the most part, those transactions looked like normal (Taproot) transactions. In fact, the 'epic ordinals' are simply the first satoshi mined after each halving. In order to filter out the epic ordinals, *you would have to filter out the coinbase transaction after each halving*! If you research ordinals, you'll realise there was no quick fix. And even if there was, it's not responsible to rush out a node upgrade every week to try to squash the latest silly hack. It was somewhat obvious that ordinals (and NFTs and so on) were just fads > Core devs would have tried to somehow contain the effects of ordinals. Since this didn't happen, I can only conclude .... It *could* be an evil Core-munist conspiracy. Or it could be that the topic of Ordinals requires more subtle thought ... (Epic ordinals, and other ordinal stuff, are discussed in detail here: https://www.nervos.org/knowledge-base/guide_to_inscriptions)