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JackTheMimic 3 weeks ago
The first sentence isn't true. That's kind of the whole point. Bitcoin can be spent without permission. The mechanism you are talking about is a social mechanism that can be applied to anything. Yes, even monero. If Monero had an exchange your coins could be frozen there too. If you KYCd your monero, everytime you spent that amount somewhere and your name was involved you would get flagged. The problem is not the protocol it is the idea that people are using a social debt network (money) while being a social pariah. You can use bitcoin privately, or not. You must use monero privately. That in and of itself is something we have never seen as a species. Fungibility though IS not inherent to the protocol that is a network/social layer ontop of the mechanism of money.

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weev 3 weeks ago
I’ve never taken a dollar bill anywhere in America and been told I can’t use it because it had cocaine on it. Hard currency is obviously fungible. II do not care about privacy. At all. It doesn’t mater to me. Only fungibility at spending time. Ring signatures offer a contract of fungibility. Monero has been fungible for me, and I’m the most banned guy you’ve ever talked to. I do not care whatever theoretical vision you have in your head of things being private or fungible or whatever. Using Bitcoin gets my commerce fucked up. Using Monero does not. It is that simple.
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JackTheMimic 3 weeks ago
Dollar bills are refused all the time because of who is spending them not cocaine or whatever. Banks refuse customers who don't have ID, or are on blacklists (I'm sure you know) so unless you are physically in a place to spend that dollar, your dollar isn't fungible. I don't see a scenario where you have bitcoin, spend it from an address and someone somehow stops you. Maybe the vendor doesn't like you but that's how commerce works. I sell guns and bombs to people I like, not those I don't. Monero makes it so I have to sell my dangerous shit to people I don't know.