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Build your own airgapped, stateless bitcoin signing device for less than most hardware wallets. π€ Not set up for zaps, if you'd like to donate to our contributors please go to https://donate.seedsigner.com
In addition to being an "I can't buy hardware wallets" option, SeedSigner is also an "I'm not comfortable trusting hardware wallets" option.
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other."
Matthew 6:24
"I had a few similar donations in the last week or so. Personally find it very encouraging."
(a quote from one of our contributors)
Now that we're about a week after the 0.8.0 release, if you're a SeedSigner user and you're getting value from the project, or if you just want to support freedom tools, please donate to our most active contributors. We have a lighting-enabled workflow that you can use to directly support those who have worked to build SeedSigner into the amazing tool that it is.
Even if it's a small amount, each donation gives these contributors a little bit of encouragement to keep going. π§‘


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We don't have a PR budget or a marketing department, so it's up to me and our users to refute false claims made by established, or aspiring, hardware wallet makers.
If I have not been as clear on this as I could have been, or emphasized it enough: Our model has not changed since the outset of the project. Our software intentionally runs on simple, inexpensive, widely available commodity hardware with no software authenticity mechanisms.
This means that our users are responsible for verifying the integrity of the code they run on their SeedSigner, because you can run any code that you would want to on the device (with great power comes great responsibility). If maliciously modified software is run on a signer, there are exploits that can be attempted. Dark skippy is an optimization of an already known attack approach, but does not expose any new fundamental weakness to our approach to cold storage. If users verify they are running our released code (which is a quick and simple process) our security model remains robust and one that myself and all of our contributors fully stand behind.
Instructions to verify our releases are available in the repo, and if you haven't used your signer in a while, or if you have any concerns about who has had access to it, just re-verify and re-deploy our software and you are all set.
I will continue to beat the drum about this as best I can. Our L1 storage model is by design intended to be as trustless and permissionless as possible, for those who want to minimize their reliance on or trust in third parties, and also as a fallback for people in parts of the world where hardware wallets are unavailable or the attempted acquisition of them could come with personal risk.
If you love bitcoin and love freedom, even though our project may not be your preferred approach to cold storage, you should want SeedSigner and projects similar to it to not only exist, but to grow and flourish. 


Max was the only podcaster who reached out after the dark skippy "novel" attack debacle, said that people seemed confused about it, and offered to have someone from the project on the show to explain how it related to SeedSigner. Literally the only one. He and QnA sincerely and passionately care about freedom tools. Consider putting them in your regular rotation if they are not already. View quoted note β
The sleeping like a baby part has been my goal with our project all along. Different people have different concerns; given my unique background and perspective, SeedSigner is what has brought myself, as well as many others peace. Proud to be helping to build one of several different approaches to sleeping like a baby when it comes to saving with bitcoin. π§‘ View quoted note β
X-posting this from the bird app, a continuation of my thoughts from earlier.
cc @Lyn Alden
I continue to think about this and the challenge is that it's much harder to profit from freedom tech (it's users are generally more anonymous and the software more freely distributed); centrally controlled systems are much easier to monetize and extract value from.
But it realistically costs time and money to build things, especially to build them well, so if funding is given it has to come from a place of idealism and hope with few strings, rather than from a place that is in search of investment multiples. Even grant money for FOSS tech in the bitcoin/nostr spaces is often tied to for-profit business models -- the nexus of venture and grant funding is a tricky place fraught with ethical pitfalls.
Just find capable people with proven track records who are building for the greater good and support them. The @HRF does this best as an organization IMHO (kudos to @gladstein @ck et al). But also, personally dig in and really learn about projects that build freedom tech, and then give directly to the ones you think are doing important work. There are tons of high quality devs who work on freedom tech part time, or who flatly won't provide identity info for money. Direct donations reach these individuals whereas grants & bundled funds primarily target those working full time and who are willing to provide identity info for payment.
Lastly, retroactive support for builders is highly underrated, and it's just ethically right. Capital allocaters and givers get too caught up in incentivizing what they think should be the next thing. If someone has built freedom tech that works and is contributing to the cause, financially thanking them puts some great incentives into play in that they feel appreciated (a deep human need), they will feel incentivized to improve / maintain what they've built, and they will often feel motivated to build the next important thing that no one else has thought of yet.
Youβre asking some of the right questions, and coming at this from a place of humility is a great approach. 

Make it a great day. π§‘ 

It's also important to have permissionless bitcoin tools that aren't provisioned by centralized or capturable companies...
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Solid take from a member of our Telegram community on how our approach differs from commercial HWWs. Tradeoffs. For those who want to trust less and are willing to take on more responsibility, our approach is just as viable. 

π¨ Announcing SeedSigner 0.8.0 ! π¨
Our release notes have gotten so good that one of my release announcement threads doesn't make sense!
Just go and check out all of the details for yourself:

GitHub
Release The "Low Time Preference" Release Β· SeedSigner/seedsigner
SeedSigner v0.8.0
It's admittedly been a minute since our last release -- we've always built carefully and deliberately, and we continue to refine ...

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