They continually said that Lightning Network was a failure. The reality is that, as an off-chain protocol, it is much more private than even Monero and coinjoins. Against decentralized coinjoin protocols, obviously because it screwed up their business, they weren't concerned about privacy. Their software was terrible, it wasn't a blind coordinator as it had several bugs that allowed the labeling of incoming and outgoing transactions, even addresses hardcoded into the code for ricochet. Unlike Nostr, where many privacy tools are being built, such as messengers and decentralized and anonymous exchanges like Mostro. Honestly, they were terrible guys.