Why are you tagging me out of all people? This is so weird. I'm the least "Bitcoin maximalist" type in here. My client doesn't even have zaps or any "wallet" functionality. Do you have any concrete suggestions for what could be done to attract Nitter users and related people?

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Naruto 1 month ago
Ok how about: when a user goes to the "Wallet" page in the menu, and taps the "+", how about supporting adding a Monero address that way? It could reuse the Payment tag people use today. But this way it's actually intuitive how to add a Monero address in the app and it's not tucked away in an extremely unclear place. I apologize for being rude to you above. I think you're friendly.
Which protocol should we use to manage the wallet? None of our wallets are ours, we are just calling other apps or services. The UI is the easy part. Do Montero wallets have something like Nostr Wallet Connect?
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Naruto 1 month ago
I don't see why you need all wallets in that page to implement that protocol. For Monero, adding the wallet to the app could be as simple as just displaying the address and linking the URI in user's profiles. Besides, Nostr Wallet Connect is kind of exactly what I'm talking about is the issue with Nostr development. Just from a glance, it's obviously designed with Lightning and only Lightning in mind. That's a Bitcoin maxi way of thinking that's contributing to a Bitcoin maxi hivemind around here. A more general protocol that could function for other cryptos (not just XMR, but gasp including USDC and USDT) would help foster more diverse content in the nostr ecosystem.
Sure, but we need protocols for each one of them. We used to have just simple addresses for Bitcoin as well and nobody ever used them because it is too disconnected of an experience. Zaps and NWC were the things that made Bitcoin explode on nostr. Just addresses would have never reached the level that it reached with btc. We actually tried. You can't have an explosion in usage without any investment in the protocol to make things exciting for users. It won't just magically be used if all you do is to just list the address in the profile page.
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Naruto 1 month ago
OK, I hear you. Monero and other cryptos could use a well thought out protocol that integrates well with nostr the way zaps and NWC do. There haven't been people around to do that. Most people involved with nostr development know more about Bitcoin. I wonder if that has anything to do with the active hostility toward "shitcoins" by maxis like fiatjaf on NIPs PR's bringing in features for other cryptos. But I digress. I think better support for displaying the URI in a profile would be nice until contributors arrive. Maybe if there is legit openness to contributions like "how to do zaps or NWC with Monero", I will consider contributing.
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Naruto 1 month ago
Backing up to this: re-opening the app after 3 years I'm not sure how best to find interesting content. I imagine there are probably good algos out there featuring good nostr content. Is it still a general policy to avoid algos? I think I remember that being a thing. But I also think amethyst could help out in some capacity pointing me toward content I'd be interested in beyond just laboriously finding people to follow.
I feel this was a great question to ask and was looking for a thorough response. It clearly was never about Nitter users nor everyday people. It became a shot at Bitcoin and pushing for Monero. Will be paying attention for if this becomes better and provide concrete suggestions that actually benefits the aforementioned communities
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Naruto 1 month ago
You're misreading my point. It's clear the focus is misplaced on niche Bitcoin maxi use cases rather than legitimate use cases more people would be interested in (not just Monero, but also yes Monero lots of like minded people who value censorship resistance use Monero). And I did raise a concrete suggestion unrelated to money.
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Naruto 1 month ago
Monero should be in any intellectualy honest conversation discussing a censorship resistant protocol. Sorry you get triggered by that. - The payment targets NIP PR was merged as a result of that exact conversation because I brought up how it's bullshit non Bitcoin PR's stall. Now it's part of the nostr spec. - I suggested a better UX for Payment Targets. - I suggested a better UX for being exposed to content via feeds. I raised issues I have in Amethyst. - @fiatjaf actually had a great suggestion to have nitter devs mirror X on nostr toward the end of the conversation. Last one obviously wasn't me, but sometimes it's impactful to make noise about things that are going wrong so suggestions like that come to light. The nostr ship is being steered in a direction leading to the current situation. Yet you just want to focus on me bringing up Monero. Why?
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