Thanks to the @key pair pod guys ( @marcan0 , @b0b ) for having me on! I had a lot of fun and I'm really grateful to have had a chance to psychobabble about all the topics that are currently important to me, including but not limited to: - Hopes, dreams and slightly unrealistic expectations for #catallax - The existential importance of Subjective, Contextualized Webs of Trust (h/t @david and @nosfabrica ) - Planting seeds for anarchocapitalist private contract and arbitration systems - Why and how I'm attempting to build a Bitcoin-only, general interest print bookstore with @Whitepaper Books - Half-assed musings on the connection between Darwinian natural selection, Austrian economics, voluntarist anarchism, open protocols and human flourishing - Peer to peer personal servers - Assassination markets; and how you definitely shouldn't make one.. https://fountain.fm/show/QGEMm7FxXz5a4553Jhqr

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really enjoyed talking to you. would have loved to ask you many more questions about grapheneos, your way to stoicism and approach to note organization. maybe one for a follow up episode.
Yeah on a more serious note, I was thinking something like Attestr could work for things like media reviews... Movies, books, exhibits, music, etc... i.e. a semi-formalized data format for "I liked X thing", which could then be measured against WoT score
Something like that! Probably would have to be a lot simpler than attestr. Another approach I am partial to is @david 's decentralized lists for this kind of thing: A list like "good comedy movies in 2025" that people can contribute to, then using GrapeRank WoT you could not only filter out spam, but filter the list based on contextual reputation, like "only show me npubs' contributions if I trust them for comedy movies" or "show me npubs' contributions whose taste in movies I **strongly disagree with**" (so you know what movies to avoid). Even if 8 million npubs contributed to this open, decentralized list, you don't have to give a shit about most of them except the people in your GrapeRank AND the trust-context you care about - handily cutting the whole human populations' opinions down to a handful you can actually make sense of.
Related discussion on "tagging" systems (tagging, as in hashtags or similar) forgot to link it in previous note... )
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> "We shall never have a good tagging system until it is removed from the central indexers via some sly, roundabout way" In my view, any attempt at semantic tagging must be built on top of a subjective trust/assertion layer, as in @david 's project. A tag is essentially an assertion that "this Thing is X": 1. I might agree with Bob's assertion that Thing 1 is X, while I disagree with Alice's assertion that Thing 2 is X. 2. I might agree with Bob's assertion that Thing 1 is X, while I disagree with Bob's assertion that Thing 2 is X. 3. ...additional permutations abound... All of effects that fall out of the above system are totally tangential to and in conflict with any "global" indexer (especially one that is tightly coupled to a particular client application) that attempts to make the same assertions for everyone. Each node in the graph should have a very different complex of agreements/disagreements (and weightings for the same) on all tags and all other nodes' opinions of those tags. The key is **disagreement** and not only allowing for it but more or less requiring it at the lowest levels of the protocol. "Global state" (in this context, a central indexer + client app) is absurd on its face when you have the prior that disagreement is a fundamental particle. Even if the central indexer allowed for infinite arbitrary assertions on a given Thing, it becomes totally unwieldy and useless if it is collecting every node's disparate opinion. The natural place for the divergent assertions to live is _at the edges_ - with the node making the assertion. - You start to build up your worldview by weighting strongly on YOUR OWN assertions... - Then looking out through your neighbors, taking into account the weight you give to each on THIS topic... - Then looking at _their_ neighbors and taking into account _their_ weight they give to _their_ neighbors on THIS topic... That gives you your own subjective view of the graph with trust/credence flowing from you and your own authority out to wherever you say it should go, given your preferences. I am something of a jihadist on this topic. I'm happy to have friendly arguments about it, but my bar for bending on it is set extremely high after a decade++ of watching it fail to be addressed properly: with Megacorp "social media" handling it worst, and many decentralized social networks getting closer but still failing to cross the final crucial Rubicon. ---- PS: Any individual can _act_, fleetingly, as a "global" indexer if a large number of people happen to trust that individual as a supreme authority on a given topic. But crucially - and this is where the (central indexer + app) model fails - they might be an authority only on this ONE TOPIC. It is highly unlikely that the node I trust ultimately for "pizza reviews" is the exact same node I trust ultimately for "code reviews".
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Cool! Yea, I think it's more common over the last couple decades than people realize. It has been my experience that having software developers from wider intellectual and creative backgrounds is a good thing for an engineering team. Better communication and fewer blind spots + lots of learning opportunities from each other. Did/do you create art, or are you talking more about an art history background? If the former, what kind of stuff do you work on? I was mostly doing pen & ink illustration. Veered into a sort of 1960's "comix" angle before I (temporarily, I hope) hung up the pen and brush.
In my first year of the Art Acedemy we had to do everything so everyone could discover what he liked the most to do. From painting, photography, making audiovisual stuff / film, performance, etc. I already knew that programming / code were my tools to create something. So I showed them stuff made in Flash / Actionscript etc and what interactivity could do. I went to the art school, because they were starting a new course called 'interaction design' but it only started in the 2nd year. The 1st year was a difficult year for me, because they didn't understand my tools and I had to learn how to create concepts and learn to process ideas into something. But they didn't sent me away (although I had not enough study points) and within the context of 'interaction design' I was able to do my thing with teachers who understand digital technology. So I kept coding, learned https://processing.org/, played around with Arduino's and sensors etc. I even made a interactive art installation which went to several festivals. After my study I was a fulltime solopreneur for some years (doing client-work) and in the periode 2014-2021 I worked part-time for some small digital agencies and now I'm fulltime solo again since '21 doing a lot of Drupal related work.