It seems people don't understand the differences in the types of bans. A client ban is when the developer forces an app to stop working for you. The app will just crash unexpectedly upon your ipconnecting. In nostrs case when you login to your npub & all of a sudden the app crashes & it no longer works even if you delete it & reinstall it. This is what a client ban is & that's unethical. It's one thing to be banned at the relay level where you no longer connect it's entirely another thing when an app is forced to crash & you have no choice but to use another app. This is what people need to fight against those who want to deny your access to other relays by entirely screwing you out of your app. A relay ban is when your connection is refused & you can't connect meaning you have to find other relays to use. This is acceptable because your not screwed out of the app & you can still use it. This is how banning is suppose to be only at the relay level. Any developer which implements client side ban is saying fuck you go find another app. When you see developers making the csam excuse as a reason to implement this what they are saying really is. Fuck your laws & rights I don't want you to use my app I don't want you to access nostr. It's an abuse to you they want to claim these apps are like web browsers & relays are website. You don't make a browser fuck you over & lock you out you make the website inaccessible. All they are doing by implementing client side banning is dominating you to their will abusing your freedom & privliages. Team Soapbox has implemented client side banning in their apps. If they don't like what you do even if you're within legal right to do it they can make the app stop working for you. If these apps are considered browsers & relays are website then your right to access the internet is being abused. Knowledge is key people pray on the fact you lack the knowledge because you've never taken your time to do research & understand that theres state, federal, & global internet laws. Your law enforcement has a department for internet laws & you can have these developers subpoena, fined, & prosecuted to the fullest extent of your countries laws. Where I live podcasters & radio host discuss how social networks are gateways to information technically the new web & how developers who create the software are the gatekeepers. The only reason developers have gotten away with this for so long is because the public you & me the majority do not know about these internet rights or how to proceed to appropriately report these people. They will continue to act like tyrants believing theybare above the law because they made the app. They don't care if it's legal in your country or if it circumvents your rights they just want to deny you access because they don't believe what you do is right in their opinon. Remember they will always use an excuse to abuse your freedom. Csam is a popular excuse to abuse privliage by design it's a go to scapegoat because no one will verify if it's actually a problem you will blindly accept it at face value because they use your belief of it being wrong against you. They create the problem to justify the excuse to make the tool & they abuse your freedom without proof then label you to single you out. I encourage you the people to be smarter & know you can hold developers accountable seek information on how to report them. They could just ban you from the relay & call it a day that's legal & acceptable you can still use the app & find other relays to connect you. What's illegal is the client side ban making the app completely unusable for you that you have to literally find another app. #nostr #privacy #introductions

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I hope everyone has a happy halloween. Heres a reminder of the censorship going on by the kings & queens of their relays. I still have not received a response from soapbox about the injustice henky has pulled. I will remind people every day about how the unjust action & the lack of proper fairness everyone's done until I get a response & henky is demoted. I ask you share this on other platforms & if you're on reddit in the r/discordalternative. No response is just another way of saying I allow the abuse & have no desire to stop it. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → Other censorship going on in nostr. View quoted note → Type of bans View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → #introductions #newtonostr #halloween
Good morning! You should check out the posterchan app if you haven't yet. The PosterChan team has been working hard at making it a cooler better experience for you to engage nostr. Here's some cool features they got. ■ UI theme make the client yours by choosing the colors you want & a background picture! ■ Profile themes yeah it's like myspace over here customize your profile's layout, colors, & add a background. ■ Profiles have music oh my god remember that from myspace you look at a profile & hear them banging tunes yeaa PosterChans got that. ■ Concord communities in the app yeah they got them & fully customizable too just like armada. ■ Ngit oh yeah look at the git repos & make yours! There's a lot more but I don't want to spoil it for you. The one thing I like the most there is if someone mutes you then you will find out. Not some shady shit & you have to go use some third party site to find out hey these people muted me. Did you know PosterChan got featured in the Zapstore? image Also for all you suffering from Team Soapbox's censorship you can come on over poster relay isn't porn nazis & we keep the cp out. Oh & best of all management ain't no fucking dictatorship acting like kings & queens! They ain't about the censorship like Team Soapbox is just look what's going on with me & Soapbox i'm still waiting for a response from these terrible people. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → Other censorship going on in nostr. View quoted note → Type of bans View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → #introductions #newtonostr #posterchan
Do not be fooled by deceivers they will lie & do anything to stop you when they see you're growing. They fear my growth that I may reach out to you & actually touch a nerve that makes you want to follow me. I appreciate everyone who follows me, mutes me, & blocks me. I even appreciate those evil people who go out of their way to censor me. They prove to me that I have power & I touched them in a way they cannot comprehend me so out of fear they mock me, judge me, & ridicule me in attempts to demoralize me. But I am not demoralized when these people laugh in their concord community thinking i'm banned that I cannot see them calling me autistic, schizo, a rat in a wall, or a retard. I am empowered to continue to be candid with my opinions. Look at how they censor me & go out of their way because they fear me. All I tried to do was spread some love even if they couldn't understand it. View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → Other censorship going on in nostr. View quoted note → Type of bans View quoted note → View quoted note → View quoted note → #introductions #nostr #newtonostr
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