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JOE2o 2 months ago
Nostr was never conceptualised for DMs. If you trust the concept for something then use it for what it was conceptualised for. DMs add a need for assured delivery that wasn't there before DMs add a need for encryption that wasn't there before Encryption adds a need for derived identities that wasn't there before Encryption adds a need for nsec hygiene that wasn't there before Nsec hygiene adds a need for remote signing that wasn't there before DMs add a need for relay specialisation that wasn't there before Relay specialisation adds a client UIs that wasn't there before The list goes on and on. DMs are a trojan horse, let them in and soon the city gates are open for an horde of barbaric complexity to march through.

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the majority of non-competent distributed systems and game theory talkers who get all the airtime on this protocol don't actually understand either game theory or distributed systems. here's some hard fax: fully anonymized, private direct messages can only be coordinated over an anonymising proxy, with ephemeral messages, and thus have a huge problem with asynchrony and there is basically ZERO consistency to the data on the network. every security and privacy (a form of security policy) system has tradeoffs. the great holy grail of these uneducated, uncreative folk who say nostr can't do secure private messaging, is a type of privacy protection that is essentially a form of deliberate amnesia with a zero time window. the biggest disagreement i have with this idiotic view of what must be in place for nostr to implement this, is this: nostr's middleman, rendezvous architecture is designed for asynchronous messaging. but it can also do synchronous messaging through rendezvous, and solves the NAT routing problem that persists for anyone wishing to do p2p protocols from their home connection. nostr solves that problem. now go back to all these supposedly "private" protocols. NAME ONE THAT DOESN"T INVOLVE THEM CACHING YOUR MESSAGES ON THEIR SERVERS! not one of them. simplex, signal, matrix, telegram, whatsapp. all of them basically have relays in them. so, what was that you were saying? are you saying i can trust Signal Inc. more than i can trust my friend in germany?
What are you talking about? Nostr had dms very early on, and is incredibly useful for things like a marketplace where customers need to dm merchants. Your being a technocrat