Only use Misty Breez wallet if you want to lose approximately 75% of your money to fees, and not be able to recieve zaps less then 100 sats lol
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Lightning still sucks
Not true. Alby Hub, Zeus, + Phoenix all rock
I’ve used Phoenix but not the rest. Wasted a lot of money and time using it. The fact that custodial still dominates says a lot
Try our new ecash setup for noobs. Lightning address with any mint you choose + no min zap limit
Misty Breez is better for retail payments where you are dealing with amounts greater than 1000 sats. This is due to the swap fees to settle in Liquid, and you don’t have to pay to open channels.
Actually Alby took my money too
Took your money? Alby (custodial) or Alby Hub?
Fair point
Could you send us the email address of your Alby Account and we can check or help explain what happened?
--> support.getalby.com
Sent, but the explanation just repeated what’s on the website.
Why can the sats that I received as zaps from nostr users only be used as alby fee credits?
We replied.
I had an Alby wallet from a long time ago (maybe a year?) when wallet of satoshi closed in the US. All my zaps were being sent and received from there. I believe it’s custodial. I honestly didn’t monitor the account much because it was more complicated than WOS, but was still receiving/sending zaps. Anyway, I think they changed their terms of service so that you had to get a hub account and pay for it. So now, years worth of zaps are sitting in the (custodial?) wallet and it won’t allow me to send them or remove them. They essentially stole them. They’re calling them alby fee credits. It’s not a lot of money, but I’m sad because of the sentiment of zaps. Anything I had received on nostr now belongs to alby.
This is the risk of running a custodial walker. You should never leave more sats on there than you are willing to lose.
Yeah I obviously didn’t know that. Now I do. Why would I use one at all? I’d rather not lose anything.
How do I know when something is a custodial wallet?
If you don’t hold the keys then it’s custodial.
I use a custodial wallet but I don’t have a significant amount of sats on it
Thanks for the info (I’d zap you, but I have no money).
Is Coinbase custodial? What about Bitkey?
Coinbase is custodial until you withdraw to a non custodial wallet. Bitkey is not custodial.
you just have to connect a wallet…
go to wallet configuration and connect any NWC wallet.
also we provide paid hosting for the Alby Hub wallet. but if you don’t want that then simply run it yourself… works anywhere.
nothing is lost, but you just have to do it… 🤷
I don’t really know what that means. I tried to create an alby hub, but that didn’t work either
For sure Bitcoin lightning is not as easy as it should be, but it’s also not that hard if you care and are interested.
there are guides and many people here to help and also official alby onboarding sessions for free.
care to say what did not work? then maybe somebody can help you.
I’ve actually spent hours on it at this point I think, and the amount of money probably isn’t worth it anymore
(Which maybe was the point. It used to work, so not sure why it had to become so complicated)
sure, up to you.
but then maybe don’t say that somebody stole things from you.
it’s probably a 2 min thing todo.
Maybe alby should be able to explain to me how to recover my money in two minutes. I’ve emailed them and they’ve sent me no proper explanation
@bumi If @nostrnormie were to connect an Uncle Jim wallet, for example, from @YakiHonne, wouldn’t he be able to move his legacy balance over to it?
so what do you not understand, and what did not work for you?
without information it’s impossible to help you I guess.
yes.
I downloaded alby hub on my pc and the first step of 5 to set up was to pay more.
What’s an uncle Jim wallet
yes.
he just needs to do it. :)
it needs to be done, but I don’t think it is too hard…is it?
there are options like the one you mentioned or coinos or a self-custodial alby hub, or …
@nostrnormie As an interim solution, try using @YakiHonne's Nostr client. In it, they’ll allow you to create a new wallet using their Alby instance. You should then be able plug that NWC string into your own Alby dashboard. From there, I believe there’s an option to migrate your funds over to it. It will still technically be custodial, but it will let you use your Alby wallet again until you decide if you want to run your own Alby Hub.
It was pretty simple for me to set up, but I think it depends on one’s experience level. I could definitely troubleshot it as long as the person I’m helping is patient and willing to learn.
if you want to use self-custodial A fun, outgoing, active market vendor on a super busy market who sells lottery tickets to demanding people and who loudly encourages people to buy more lottery tickets before they are all gone. The price to win is huge. lightning then you need a channel which if bought from an LSP costs money.
otherwise go with solutions like coinos, yakihonne, …
but do it asap, this was announced way more than a year ago with a deadline in January.
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Thank you. That worked. I appreciate you patiently and simply explaining a way for me to move it, in a way that no one from alby was able to.
It’s a wallet on a Lightning node that someone else (like a family member or friend) is maintaining for you, so you’ll have your own balance but you don’t need to manage channels. It’s considered custodial because you don’t have the private key.
Yeah Misty Breez is really not a Lightning wallet but a Liquid wallet, with cool behind-the-scenes set up for easy interaction with the Lightning network. But every transaction is going to have a Liquid network fee, so it is absolutely the wrong wallet for zaps. You need an actual Lightning wallet for that.