You can verify they are real. But you can’t verify that they exist, have not been double spent, or the mint closed while you are holding the verified token.

can you show me code that does this? I find that hard to believe. At the end of the day unless the sats are in my lightning channel i’m calling bs.

Sounds way more complicated than just using lightning.

I downloaded cashu the other day both on android and iOS , then I delete it . I can’t remember why , .. oh now I remembered it . Something with Mint token It’s because ecash or Cashew is not decentralized network , E cash depends on central mint or federation issued the token, while lightning wallet is decentralized so no one control the bitcoin . Hmm , Lightning send actual Bitcoin over the network , while E cash just send tokens issued by the issuer . You really need to trust the issuer or else you get screwed .