Im slowly unfollowing and muting core promoters/defenders because it’s feeling disingenuous at best and malicious at worst. —When things don’t make sense in a logical argument, (after hours of debate) it’s usually because someone is withholding their genuine motives (ie, lying) Having listened to hours and hours of both sides, I am more and more convinced that Shinobi, Lopp, Shapiro etc are bad actors that are up to no good. 🧡👊🏻🍻