Satoshi said second layers would come eventually. He obviously did not think the base layer was for buying coffees. Roger Ver is just retarded. All the BCH people are just retarded. The big blockers are just retarded. And your mom is retarded too.

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this is an "all or nothing" argument and its a false dichotomy. we should have had a real blocksize increase already. it's clear that the block size limit was temporary and Satoshi talked about raising it. this doesn't mean that "the base layer has to be for micropayments for the rest of time" it's true Satoshi also talked about payment channels. that doesn't mean "L1 has to only be a settlement layer for central banks for the rest of time" The big blockers aren't any more retarded than the now-dominant small blocker arguments. they are both illogical ideological arguments which are not rooted in reality and pragmatism. and maybe it's just hindsight but Roger was right that we could have had a block size increase and it would not have caused centralization.
also it's obviously ideologically inconsistent to NOT support having larger blocks, but turn around and support ecash mints as a scaling solution for having small blocks. its really weird.
Hanshan's avatar Hanshan
We'll certainly have Bitcoin banks its just the obvious ridiculousness of maxis arguing against trusting Uncle Jim or a paid service to run a node for you but then evangelizing FOR L3 banks run by nyms to solve the scaling problem creating by the 1st argument.
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