SimpleX Chat is a honeypot I warned you a long time ago: SimpleX Chat is a platform corrupted by money: Follow the money trail to understand its destination. It has investments from large globalist corporations. See my post from a year ago and then read my analysis: SimpleX plans to use a treceable blockchain to fund and maintain secure messaging servers and groups via Ethereum smart contracts and zero-knowledge proofs, enabling short address names and network consensus without intermediaries. Blockchain is used "for secure payments"🗿 image SimpleX: where your messages are invisible, but your wallet is an open book. Privacy for your words, transparency for your coins — the perfect combo for the modern cypherpunk accountant. Since #Monero does not comply with the regulations, and therefore cannot handle KYC payments, SimpleX cannot use it 🙃 image If it wasn't clear in SimpleX's explanation, let's see if it's clearer now? image SimpleX: “We’ll protect your privacy… while following every surveillance law.” Translation: compliance-first, privacy-second. The warm-up act for KYC chat apps — encryption with a government backdoor bow. image Perhaps you don't prioritize #privacy or KYC compliance, but if that's the case, why are you using Simplex instead of Microsoft Teams or Google Meet? Either way, Simplex will comply with regulators sooner or later. That's why Session Messenger for the #SovereignIndividual
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Globalists invest in privacy? SimpleX Chat is an open source messenger, which was conceived in privacy, keeping the anonymity of the users and without access to their data, but, in July 2022, SimpleX Chat secured seed funding from venture capital fund Village Global. In July 2022 SimpleX Chat raised a pre-seed funding from the VC fund Village Global. Village Global VC fund is Gates-Bezos-Zuckerberg. image Do you think these three characters want your privacy? Sources: 1. simplex.chat/blog/20230422-… 2. villageglobal.vc A lot of money from venture capitalists investing in Simplex, a "simple" startup. Do they all have a strong conviction for privacy? What is the interest of globalist angel investors? More money coming in... Jack Dorsey and Asymmetric Capital Partners https://simplex.chat/blog/20240814-simplex-chat-vision-funding-v6-private-routing-new-user-experience.html
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We need to hear the details of the proposal. If the proof of purchase token could be proven to be owned by a ZK proof but have no link to your on chain wallet, it could very well maintain the same OPSEC level as it currently does. It does broaden the attack surface though. As long as they don't force the monetization model to all servers, users will be able to still use community run servers like those ran by the OPSEC Bible team http://nowherejezfoltodf4jiyl6r56jnzintap5vyjlia7fkirfsnfizflqd.onion/simplex-servers.html or your own self hosted servers. This is best case use anyway so for all those OPSEC maximalists, this is already the use case for SimpleX Also how on Earth are you going to lob these criticisms at this vague proposal and them propose we use Session when session is likely their inspiration for an EVM smart contract monetized messenger network Did you not realize Session has an EVM token too? Also the reason Session and likely SimpleX cant use Monero is because it can't do micropayments and can't be programmed on chain. This is good for Monero, don't get me wrong, I would hate for Monero to fall like Bitcoin by trying to be everything and achieving nothing.
I just checked again for talkback users. The message body reads "message body". It doesn't read the actual message itself.
Is it about the token? No Is it about them not wanting to use Monero? No. It's about who the investors are and how they talk about complying with the rules. It's about understanding who's behind it all. They've recently received a massive investment from this parasitic globalist elite. Did you read my old post carefully? We need to look beyond the obvious; we need to understand what's being left unsaid but is actually happening. You need to read all three layers of information. Connect the dots you see.
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#privacy isn’t comfortable — and that’s exactly the point. FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) won’t smile at you: it’s rough, full of friction, and has zero patience. BIG TECH, on the other hand, caresses you with design… while draining your data. The good news? You don’t need to be a nerd to rebel anymore. With #AI, you can learn to use Linux and open tools without selling your soul. Try http://Duck.ai or http://Venice.ai: privacy options and digital pen salt.
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Yeah I agree VC is always worthy of skepticism, but until we have evidence that the source code or general anonymity model of SimpleX is compromised we shouldn't arbitrarily shy away. Because of this VC investment, we certainly should be more careful though.
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DystopiaHater 1 month ago
VC money is concerning because at the end they want some form of return and this token idea is one of them to get income both for dev work and the investors. investements are only for ROIs. as long as everything is developed in the open and they freely allow self hosting without any hidden restriction like Minio did recently. it could work
The thing is. We are currently creating SimpleX network effect and I want to stop early before bringing all my contacts to SimpleX. I am sure there is a chance to make this right for Evgeny. But how he talks about KYC (as if money would not be free speech) shows his misunderstanding or his true colors or its his backers doing the communication. Everything worries me.
Yeah it's not great, that last tweet is quite damning for him. I'm trying to keep an open mind but it seems he wants to steer it towards a permissioned, KYC direction. I was always wary of their initial funding model but it may seem like now it's coming to light their true plans.