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Like abolishing slavery, owning other humans as property.
Every revolution that has ever lead to independence, like American Revolution.
Lots of chemicals and horribly bad for health stuff put in food and tonics being made illegal.
I can keep going
Personal responsibility is not someone elses job
Civil rights anyone?
Holy shit that literally makes no sense in the context of what I shared.
Dont eat them
You are right, we need to make laws against harming people, and murdering people.
Why did you skip the revolutions and slavery?
This is a classic example of victim blaming
You have a lot of reading to do
I started reading Mises, Hayek, Nietzsche…everything you think I haven’t way back during my support of Ron Paul when his movement first started. But I’m open to reading something new if you got some ideas.
That’s also a good way to deflect from answering a valid critique.
Look, I was trying to make a point. Of course you have to defend yourself if your life is in imminent danger, that’s different. But there is always a paradigm shifting idea which renders force obsolete. Seeing as we’re on a decentralized platform that runs on BTC, I thought it was relevant.
Revolutions aren’t necessarily violent, nor was the obsolescence of abject slavery, in fact, now slaves just don’t know they’re slaves. A good idea in the hands of evil people are no less effective.
The revolutionaries in America used subversive and less forceful tactics on the battlefield that won them their independence.
Good ideas always trump force even if the outcomes weren’t used for a moral good. I’m sure certainly you have read sun tzu.
Yes I have read The Art of War. I also agree that the use of force needs to always be last resort. However, evil prevails when good people stay passive…this is historically true.
Oh certainly, 100% agree. As Hayek said… “some sly roundabout way…”.
Or Einstein “problems can’t be solved in the same frameworks which they were created”
Have you read natural law or no treason by spooner?
Civil disobedience? Thoreau
A right to ignore the state? Spencer
Yes, I am reluctant anarchist. As I get older and continue reading and studying Marx, Joseph Schumpeter, Richard Wolff, and Workers Co-Ops…my perspectives start to change. I think we are in the midst of an evolution, shedding of the capitalism skin. There is no one size fits all or really an ending point where we stop learning and evolving. However, “every man for himself” has had its time in the sun and is ready to be put to pasture.
I think there are too many people listening to professor Jiang these days, although I agree with him a lot . Marxism is fundamentally flawed IMO and it’s hard to be a free market capitalist when no one in the history of the world has had ubiquitous sound permissionless money. But Marxism is a centralizing force whereas truly free markets are effortlessly decentralizing and liberating.
The jab is mandatory if you want to work or go out. It's also safe an effective. We practically force you to take it because you're too stupid to know what's in your own best interests.
Marx did not believe in centralizing markets. How does Marx beliefs centralize anything in the markets?
Well firstly he believed all credit would be controlled by a single state bank. What do you think the Gosbank was?
Do you know why Marx thought, at that time, that creating one state bank would be better?
It was his belief that banking under capitalism would lead to just a few banks controlling everything and therefore controlling capital in the hands of profiteers.
He was proven to be right.
But he could not have conceived bitcoin at that time so I don’t feel it necessary to carry on those beliefs of his. Bitcoin renders that point moot.
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No, we haven’t had capitalism. I always share this video. Watch the first half hour or so.
So you believe, unlike many economist in history and now, that we have never had capitalism?
Capitalism requires capital. Even Marx agreed capital requires sound money. In his day, that was gold. Today we use fiat, so no it’s not a free market and it’s not capitalism. I think it’s really that simple. Capital is not preserved therefore the value of capital is leaked to a centralized entity.
Agree, but...
Anyone blaming Wikipedia just sounds silly and/or lazy. If your argument is sound, and you have references, then change it yourself instead of complaining about what someone else wrote. If you get reverted, then take your argument to the talk page and hash it out with the person that reverted. If that doesn't work, then there are other steps you can take, opening up an RFC (Request For Comment), AN/I (Administrator Noticeboard/Incidents), dispute resolution, etc. depending on the behavior of people involved. BRD "Bold -> Revert -> Discuss"
We have always had a way of transacting value. I think you may be attempting to murky the waters to save your argument.
Let’s try these two easy questions for a foundation:
What are the 3 to 4 key tenets of capitalism?
What does free and market mean separately?
Dude, I can’t believe I’m actually having this debate… I’m sorry I can’t do it again. Chalk it up as a W if you’d like, but I’ve had this debate a hundred times and it’s always the same. Im tired boss
Exactly!
No problem friend, have a great weekend!